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Help me spec a new windlass

Nancy
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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Bluewater wrote: Wed May 20, 2020 7:54 am Has anyone retrofitted a remote to an original Horizon windlass? I mostly singlehand and anchoring can be a pain as I run back and forth between the pulpit and wheelhouse.........
That's exactly what I wanted to do with the Horizon 500 windlass, but it didn't have a control box, so it didn't seem possible. Maybe we just weren't clever enough. :shock: Then again, it's just as well we didn't go that route because the old windlass kept slipping on the rope-chain splice. We'd re-done the splice, swapped rode end to end, got new rope. Still slipped. The new Lewmar is perfectly satisfied with my splice.

We installed a Lewmar Windlass Handheld Wired Remote, 68000599. I like that the wire keeps it from going kerplunk - that was just way to easy to visualize - and I like not making more holes in the deck (for foot switches).
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine

Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
Bluewater
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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Hmm - all good info. Really want to go with Coolchange’s $50 solution. I’m no longer sailing and anchoring in along the Biscay coast or in places like the Falklands so am not looking to buy a new windlass unless the old one falls off - and: (a) in the past ( as my wife will tell anyone who will listen) we have spent far too much money on boats; (b) I retired on a fixed income; and (c) have to compete with apparently critical capital expenditures such as plantation shutters ( and see (a) above). Thus thank you Coolchange....
David
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Nancy
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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David, I hear you on all counts. If you're doing the work yourself, there's not much to lose by trying the $50 solution. I'll be very interested to know if it works.

Yes, the new Lewmar was a splurge, but it allows me to confidently anchor single-handed.
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
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Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
Bluewater
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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Nancy - will do.
David
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WillieC
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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Bluechange, hilarious!

We give away perfectly good couches only to replace them with ridiculously expensive ones. Yeah, this income is fixed alright... (Don't tell the Starfleet Commander. I'm only exaggerating a little.)
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

Post by Norseman »

. critical capital expenditures such as plantation shutters
We did plantation shutters 2 months ago, Admiral is happy, now I can spend all I want on the boat. :shock: :mrgreen:
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
Bluewater
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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Nancy - apologies - your sensible post has gone way off track - mea culpa.
I hate spending money on things that don’t float, eg houses, but living ashore its apparently necessary. Just peed’d off as spent many thousands on plantation shutters in previous house last year, and now many thousands more on the new house this year. OK - I’m at peace now - kinda, and I do want to stay married.......
David
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Ex Albin 43 (Lehman) and many sailboats
Nancy
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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LOL at the multiple sets of shutters, David. No worries about the thread drift. I firmly maintain that hiring a mechanic (or a carpenter, electrician, plumber, painter, etc. for those pesky house projects) is way cheaper than a divorce.
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine

Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
Bluewater
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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CoolChange - I purchased the $49.99 windlass remote and today attached each of the 4 cables to the Simpson Lawrence windlass switch in the wheelhouse. Not so easy - tough to access and shortish existing cables.
Anyway, much sweat, complaining, and bad language later - all connected. 12v power back on and windlass switch works again just fine. But the remotes just click (in the white box, which I assume is a solenoid) but do not activate the windlass.
Hoping maybe you found a secret during your installation that you could share?
If not then there’s going to be considerably more complaining and bad language....
David
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Yanmar 6LP-STE

Ex Albin 28TE 1994 Peninsular 300
Ex Albin 43 (Lehman) and many sailboats
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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I've reviewed the windlass thread going back a few years. Lots of great information and advice. I now know which machine to buy and I'm about to do that. BUT, I need more help, if anyone has experience with this specific situation.

My 1994 28TE has zero pre-wiring channels from midships to bow, as one member described on a later model. The forward compartment does have a very small pass-through for the running lights 12 volt wire. I have not yet dug real deep but, before I do, does anyone have any suggestions as to how to snake 2 8-gage wires into the forward anchor line compartment? Is there a cabling path on the port side running behind the galley? I sure can't see any obvious path on the starboard side. Do I have to remove bulkhead upholstery?

I'm concerned about an old Bert & I routine, "Can't the-ah from he-ah!"

Any other insights or caustions?
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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On our '95, the wiring channel is on the starboard side of the cabin. The trim pieces have to be removed from the head, hanging locker, the cupboard at the dinette seating, etc. Let me know if you need a photo.
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
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Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

Post by Pitou »

Nancy hit the nail on the head. The horizontal cover boards running over the hull to deck joint is the cabling path. Some are cherry wood, but most are covered in the same material used on the cabin ceiling. Pop the cover caps off to access the screws that secure the cover boards.
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Re: Help me spec a new windlass

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Perfect. Thank you. I had already popped the caps and pulled the screws on the forward panel just to see what was behind it...didn't help, but now I'll go to the starboard side. Thank you, Nancy and Kevin.

BTW - rum at whatever time of day...must be Mt Gay.
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