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A27 how to make bent trim
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A27 how to make bent trim
Any ideas on how to make the pilothouse exterior trim corner? Mine was missing this piece. Don: this is a pic of my next door neighbor.
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RNummi
84 A27FC Lehman 4D61
Hull #84 April 1984
84 A27FC Lehman 4D61
Hull #84 April 1984
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Re: A27 how to make bent trim
Steam and bend it?
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Re: A27 how to make bent trim
You will note that it drops an inch or two to meet the pilothouse trim strip. I'm just curious to know if anyone has replaced these. I think the boats I've seen so far have dropped the trim altogether and faired the Piolthouse fiberglass into the cabin (and for those folks: you don't have EM still laying around do you?). I'm wondering if anyone came up with a trim alternative.
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84 A27FC Lehman 4D61
Hull #84 April 1984
84 A27FC Lehman 4D61
Hull #84 April 1984
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Re: A27 how to make bent trim
From sanding these pieces they appear to be a thin laminate of multiple layers of teak. That might be hard to find and bend.
If I was going to replace them here's what I'd do. Take a 1/2" thick teak board and cut it the width of the trim. Then I'd cut the board in sections, with a mitered edge, working my way around the radius of the pilothouse corner. Then I'd epoxy the mitered edges together creating one "bent" piece made up of 2-3 mitered angles. Then you could cut the trim to shape. And sand or grind it to remove the mittered edge. If your miteres are tight enough you'll barely see the joinery.
An alternative would be PVC trim, painted. The radius of the corner is done with a heat gun.
If I was going to replace them here's what I'd do. Take a 1/2" thick teak board and cut it the width of the trim. Then I'd cut the board in sections, with a mitered edge, working my way around the radius of the pilothouse corner. Then I'd epoxy the mitered edges together creating one "bent" piece made up of 2-3 mitered angles. Then you could cut the trim to shape. And sand or grind it to remove the mittered edge. If your miteres are tight enough you'll barely see the joinery.
An alternative would be PVC trim, painted. The radius of the corner is done with a heat gun.
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Re: A27 how to make bent trim
I did make new ones, I formed a bending jig out of ply, cut a bunch of teak strips (thin about 1/16" on my bandsaw and laminated up two blanks. Then I bandsawed out the shape to provide the "drop down" that rnummi mentioned in his post.
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Re: A27 how to make bent trim
Other than carving one out of a solid block of teak, I think Jay's laminating solution is your best bet
As you noted Rick, my boat doesn't have that teak trim at all. I suspect it was probably once there, but it was all gone before I bought the boat. Another difference between pre-production and production boats - On my boat, the pilothouse was carefully shaped so it sits down flush with the deck all the way around, so all I have is an 1/8th inch crack filled with 5200, while on your boat, you can stick your fingers between the deck and the pilothouse in many places. You might consider filling those large voids with some epoxy mixture with micro-balloons so you'll have a solid place for the screws holding the teak
BTW - I met the TowBoat US operator in slip #1 and he's been looking after your neighbors boat for some time. He's trying hard to get the guy to sell it to him, as it's obvious he's never going to do anything with it. The neighbor told him it was "Ford Lehman powered' and I told him that was very unlikely, so we went aboard and checked - The same 4D61 as all the early boats came with. The 'value' of the boat went down quite a bit in his eyes right then . . . . he had never heard of a Peugeot Lehman (and evidently, neither had it's owner) so in addition to all of the hull to deck joint repairs that boat needs, the TowBoat guy added a repower to his future plans. I told him there were probably more of those Peugeots in use worldwide than the Ford tractor engines he was hoping to find, but he wasn't impressed
Don
As you noted Rick, my boat doesn't have that teak trim at all. I suspect it was probably once there, but it was all gone before I bought the boat. Another difference between pre-production and production boats - On my boat, the pilothouse was carefully shaped so it sits down flush with the deck all the way around, so all I have is an 1/8th inch crack filled with 5200, while on your boat, you can stick your fingers between the deck and the pilothouse in many places. You might consider filling those large voids with some epoxy mixture with micro-balloons so you'll have a solid place for the screws holding the teak
BTW - I met the TowBoat US operator in slip #1 and he's been looking after your neighbors boat for some time. He's trying hard to get the guy to sell it to him, as it's obvious he's never going to do anything with it. The neighbor told him it was "Ford Lehman powered' and I told him that was very unlikely, so we went aboard and checked - The same 4D61 as all the early boats came with. The 'value' of the boat went down quite a bit in his eyes right then . . . . he had never heard of a Peugeot Lehman (and evidently, neither had it's owner) so in addition to all of the hull to deck joint repairs that boat needs, the TowBoat guy added a repower to his future plans. I told him there were probably more of those Peugeots in use worldwide than the Ford tractor engines he was hoping to find, but he wasn't impressed
Don
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Yanmar Turbo Intercooled 100 HP
Homeport Biloxi Back Bay
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Re: A27 how to make bent trim
Thanks guys. I think I'll give the lamination option a try. The PVC option looks promising too. Don: I probably am going to give fairing a shot. Worst case scenario is the trim strips cover my amateur fairing job. Inre slip #4, it's sad to see a perfectly restorable boat left to rot. That being the case however..... It is a source of spare parts! Maybe owner would like to part out the carcass. I will certainly explore that option. What are the odds of renting a slip in a 500 boat marina right next to another A27?
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84 A27FC Lehman 4D61
Hull #84 April 1984
84 A27FC Lehman 4D61
Hull #84 April 1984