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Advice for Fuel filter change
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Advice for Fuel filter change
Well, Im at the end of my first season with my 28 and am going to change my filters. Can someone please give me a step by step for changing the primary (racor 900) and secondary filters. Went to the Mac Boring class and they said I only needed to pump the pump on the secondary to clear the lines of air... did not even have to open lines. I was even told to install outboard style fuel bulb in line between tank and primary... But where would the air go when pumped?
A step by step from someone who did this successfully would be great.. Thanks
A step by step from someone who did this successfully would be great.. Thanks
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
On a Cummins depressing the thumb pump fills the secondary filter and the excess air and fuel returns to the fuel tank. My mechanic told me to put the filter on empty and use the pump to fill it. If you accidentally get some dirt in it when trying to fill it there is nothing between it and the injector pump. When changing the Racor I shut off the fuel at the tank, open the lid and remove the old filter slowley to let it drip. Then put it into a plastic bag or bucket. Put in the new filter and top up with diesel. Tighten the lid and turn the fuel tank lever to open. I shut off the tank while changing the spin-on secondary too.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
Actually you should be changing filters at the BEGINING of the season. Racor elements lose their water separating ability (per their website info).
If you are careful to not lose any fuel out of the Racor when you pull the old element, then you won't need to do anything there. Make SURE the seal on the lid is clean and the "T handle nut" is tight. If you make an air leak there your engine will run for about 10-15 minutes then stall. Now you have to bleed everything from scratch. Good practice, but not good fun.
For that reason I always idle for 20 minutes or so at the dock after a filter change.
If you are careful to not lose any fuel out of the Racor when you pull the old element, then you won't need to do anything there. Make SURE the seal on the lid is clean and the "T handle nut" is tight. If you make an air leak there your engine will run for about 10-15 minutes then stall. Now you have to bleed everything from scratch. Good practice, but not good fun.
For that reason I always idle for 20 minutes or so at the dock after a filter change.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
Thanks for the help guys. I will wait till spring. Is it the norm to not fill the secondary first due to possible dirt getting past it? If I leave it empty do I just have to use the primer bulb on the secondary or do i need to open the fuel line to het the air out as i prime it?
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
I would think there is a bleed screw on the top of the filter housing. Never saw one without a bleed screw, but then again I never worked on a Yanmar. Pump the lift pump or primer bulb to fill the filter until solid fuel comes out of the bleed screw, then close that screw.sweetwater wrote:Thanks for the help guys. I will wait till spring. Is it the norm to not fill the secondary first due to possible dirt getting past it? If I leave it empty do I just have to use the primer bulb on the secondary or do i need to open the fuel line to het the air out as i prime it?
You should be good to go.
Any minor amount of trapped air should self bleed.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
After you've installed the new filter asembly in the Raycor housing back off the banjo bolt (red arrow) next to the primer pump (circled in red). With the bolt backed off a couple turns pump the pump until a solid stream of fuel comes out around the bolt with each pump, then snug it up and you're done.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
How do you guys dispose of any old fuel that might be collected during any service?
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
Home heating oil tank after running it thru a coffee filter
Rob S.
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Luck is the residue of good design.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
Usually it's not enough to worry about and will be soaked up by a couple of paper towels tthen put in the dumpster.mike66 wrote:How do you guys dispose of any old fuel that might be collected during any service?
If there is any appreciable amount then I let the yuck settle, then pour the top back into the tank and soak up the yucky stuff as described.
Normally this is all I get.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
For sure the amount of fuel to dispose of when changing the primary is minimal. The secondary will get you a full cup's worth or therabouts.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
My marina has recycling tanks for oil, diesel and transmission fluid. I did not know if for a few years because they are in the boat rack building that has signs saying do not enter. Check to see if yours does.
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
Yes our yard has tanks, but they "ask" for $1 a gallon to dispose of it. If I had a quart or two I would just dump it and not worry about it.Russell wrote:My marina has recycling tanks for oil, diesel and transmission fluid.
I am fortunate though in that my son heats with waste oil at his auto repair shop, so I have no trouble getting rid of any of that stuff. He takes anything I can find
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Re: Advice for Fuel filter change
Fascintaing to see what is being done with mushrooms including oil and other hazardous waste clean up. Check it out - google TED.com mushroom to see oil clean up