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Rydlyme Flush on 6LP
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- RobS
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Rydlyme Flush on 6LP
A few weekends ago I did a preventative maintenance Rydlyme flush of the raw water side of my 6LP. I made up two adapters to go from the 1 ½” engine hoses to ¾” garden hose thread. I then used 6’ washing machine hoses to go from my submersible pump to my adapters.
Mack Boring said cycle the 50/50 solution 15 minutes, let it sit an hour and then cycle it another 15 minutes.
Rydlyme’s customer service rep said to just run the 50/50 mix for an hour and a half.
So I decided to blend the two instructions together and came up with run it for a half hour, let it sit for a half hour and run it again for a half hour. Since both methods suggested to me had a total time of an hour and a half I kept that the same. My first half hour I ran it in reverse flow, the second run was in the normal direction.
Utilizing the washing machine hoses allowed me to simply connect the garden hose when I was done and run fresh water through for 15 minutes in both directions. This also cleaned out my adapter fittings and washer hoses.
If anyone is interest in doing a flush I can throw the 2 adapters and hoses in a box and send them to you. I’ll cover the shipping – Just ship them back to me when done.
Adapters:
Pump & Washer Hoses:
(You can see how the Rydlyme took the shiny finish off the brass ends submerged in the bucket)
Running:
(The 110 outlet at the starboard helm came in handy for plugging in the pump)
Lower connection at Exit side of Cooling Water Pump:
Upper Connection at Exit Hose from Heat Exchanger. Removed from Mixing Elbow. Don't forget to remove the cooling water pisser hose for the shaft seal and cap that off:
Mack Boring said cycle the 50/50 solution 15 minutes, let it sit an hour and then cycle it another 15 minutes.
Rydlyme’s customer service rep said to just run the 50/50 mix for an hour and a half.
So I decided to blend the two instructions together and came up with run it for a half hour, let it sit for a half hour and run it again for a half hour. Since both methods suggested to me had a total time of an hour and a half I kept that the same. My first half hour I ran it in reverse flow, the second run was in the normal direction.
Utilizing the washing machine hoses allowed me to simply connect the garden hose when I was done and run fresh water through for 15 minutes in both directions. This also cleaned out my adapter fittings and washer hoses.
If anyone is interest in doing a flush I can throw the 2 adapters and hoses in a box and send them to you. I’ll cover the shipping – Just ship them back to me when done.
Adapters:
Pump & Washer Hoses:
(You can see how the Rydlyme took the shiny finish off the brass ends submerged in the bucket)
Running:
(The 110 outlet at the starboard helm came in handy for plugging in the pump)
Lower connection at Exit side of Cooling Water Pump:
Upper Connection at Exit Hose from Heat Exchanger. Removed from Mixing Elbow. Don't forget to remove the cooling water pisser hose for the shaft seal and cap that off:
Rob S.
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
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"TENACIOUS"
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
- Russell
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Rob: It is interesting that I circulated Rydlyme in my Cummins 6BTA two weeks ago and used almost the same set up as you. The 12 V pump I used had garden hose threads and I had some old washing machine hoses in the garage. According to a previous post by Pitou I went to Lowes and purchased PFC 1.5 inch to hose thread adapters for 42 cents each. The threads matched but were a bit short and required two rubber seals to prevent leaking. I circulated fresh water for a while before hooking everything back up. My cruise temperature dropped from 195 to 190 degrees so it was not in too bad of shape after 10 years. From some previous posts I gather that the Yanmars run cooler than the Cummins. By the way, I had the old washing machine hoses because we switched some years ago to the stainless steel reinforced type. Did you do the same?
Russ
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- RobS
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It was Saturday, Sep 27th. Earlier in the week Matt Hanna and I were trying to make some fishing plans but the weather was not looking good so I decided to do the Rydlyme. The day before Matt was in the area of the local dealer and was nice enough to pick it up for me so he came by just as I was finished getting the ciculation loop together.Russell wrote:Rob: It is interesting that I circulated Rydlyme in my Cummins 6BTA two weeks ago and used almost the same set up as you.
No. I too had switched over to the stainless braided hoses but the old ones were already cut up for other projects some time ago. I bought new ones from Home Depot for this.Russell wrote:By the way, I had the old washing machine hoses because we switched some years ago to the stainless steel reinforced type. Did you do the same?
Rob S.
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Cummins 6BTA 330B's
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
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1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
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- RobS
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It is not a typical "acid" but does what you are looking to do. Here is the website with basically everything you need to know.
http://www.rydlymemarine.com/
http://www.rydlymemarine.com/
Last edited by RobS on Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
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1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
- chiefrcd
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Ridlyme is primarly made up of dilute Hydrogen Chloride, they add significant buffers to make it manageable and safe, please check out the website's MSDS sheet before you handle it.
http://www.rydlymemarine.com/pdfs/MSDSJAN05.pdf
Hydrogen Chloride:
Highly corrosive solution of hydrogen chloride (a colourless, acidic gas) in water. The concentrated acid is about 35% hydrogen chloride. The acid is a typical strong, monobasic acid forming only one series of salts, the chlorides. It has many industrial uses, including recovery of zinc from galvanized scrap iron and the production of chlorine. It is also produced in the stomachs of animals for the purposes of digestion.
http://www.rydlymemarine.com/pdfs/MSDSJAN05.pdf
Hydrogen Chloride:
Highly corrosive solution of hydrogen chloride (a colourless, acidic gas) in water. The concentrated acid is about 35% hydrogen chloride. The acid is a typical strong, monobasic acid forming only one series of salts, the chlorides. It has many industrial uses, including recovery of zinc from galvanized scrap iron and the production of chlorine. It is also produced in the stomachs of animals for the purposes of digestion.
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How many gallons ???
After Chief brought this to discussion a year or more ago .... oh well ... I never did the Ridlyme flush and with the discussion taking place now it tells me the time is here after 7 seasons. What I have been doing is the Salt Away Bath. Thanks for the pics Rob they have taken the daunt out of it. A curious question for those that have done it .... How many gallons of Ridlyme do you need? And yes I will jump on the link to the Ridlyme Site. The answer is probably there. Thanks.
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At a 50/50 dilution 2 gallons of Rydlyme making a 4 gallon solution works for the 6LP. However, I'm not sure the same would be for the 6BTA as yours being a larger displacement engine may have a higher coolant capacity and may require a 3rd gallon. I believe the 6LP coolant capacity is just over 2 gallons. Also depends on your apparatus for the circulation loop.
Rob S.
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1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
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1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
- RobS
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Best bet is to call the customer service number and get a local dealer to you. If a dealer does not exist near enough to you you can buy direct from the manufacturer. Mac Boring recommend flushing with the product so Yanmar dealers should either have it or be able to order it.jleonard wrote:Where do you buy Ridlyme?
Rob S.
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1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
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I purchased one gallon of Rydlyme for the Cummins 6BTA and added about a quart of water. It was more than sufficient. The transmission cooler is the low point so when finished I reversed the hoses on the pump and pumped all the Rydlyme out of the system and then flushed with fresh water for a while before reattaching the hoses. I put the Rydlyme back in its bottle.
Russ
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Here is the picture posted in June by Merry Kate for the 6BTA. Note the zinc which must be removed or it will be destroyed.
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Re: Rydlyme Flush on 6LP
Brought this thread back from the dead. Do this if you haven't. I have now blown 2 ($90) hoses in 2 seasons. It's the hose the goes into the intercooler and of course it's a $90 special hose from Yanmar. The price went from $19 a year ago to $90. Mack Boring said I'm getting back pressure and recommended a Rydlyme wash. I didn't suspect anything was wrong because I always run around 180 deg. After the first hose split I just thought I had a old rotten hose.
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