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28TE batteries & bow thruster
- peteyklondike
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28TE batteries & bow thruster
I Know this is an old thread but I am having a hard time figuring out how to create a new post this is my first time using this group as I am a new Albin owner. I have a 2004 Albin 28 with the engine box that is not the tournament version as it does not have the rocket launchers on the express top. I just started going through the boat and it runs great the Yanmar is smooth and quiet. my issue is happening when I use the bow thruster. it dies out like there is not enough Power for it to keep going so I don't want to keep using it and burn out the bow thruster however coming from a 34 Sea Vee not having 2 motors I like the comfort of having the bow thruster. I'm assuming the issue is the batteries. I have only found 2 batteries on the boat on the starboard side underneath where the captain stands. My friend has the same boat and he has a dedicated battery in the front for the bow thruster and windless. He also another huge battery centerline in front of the engine where my generator is.
So I have a some questions if anyone can help.
is there only two batteries on some Albin's with generators ? or is there somewhere I am not seeing another battery for the bow thruster winch ?
are there other spots or common locations places for batteries that I might be missing ? f not what recommendations for replacing the two batteries tat I have which i am assuming is one house and one start battery and possibly adding another house battery? 1 other thig, I will be installing two Furuno TZ touch 3 12 inch, a Furuno 24 inch NXT radar Dome and a JL sound system. I do not think 1 house battery is enough. Thank you in advance for any assistance
So I have a some questions if anyone can help.
is there only two batteries on some Albin's with generators ? or is there somewhere I am not seeing another battery for the bow thruster winch ?
are there other spots or common locations places for batteries that I might be missing ? f not what recommendations for replacing the two batteries tat I have which i am assuming is one house and one start battery and possibly adding another house battery? 1 other thig, I will be installing two Furuno TZ touch 3 12 inch, a Furuno 24 inch NXT radar Dome and a JL sound system. I do not think 1 house battery is enough. Thank you in advance for any assistance
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Hi Petey -- I have moved your post into a new thread.
To create a new post, select a forum section, e.g. "Tournament Express 26-35". About the middle of the screen on the left side, there's a button for "New Topic".
To create a new post, select a forum section, e.g. "Tournament Express 26-35". About the middle of the screen on the left side, there's a button for "New Topic".
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Hi Petey,
I have a 2005 Albin 28 TE Flush Deck, no generator, and two batteries, one behind the transmission, on the centerline, and the other is a bit behind my captains chair, starboard side, the bow thruster takes a lot out of the batteries when used, the draw down is significant, and I only use it when absolutely necessary. I replaced both batteries last year, pic of one of them, they are both the same
I have a 2005 Albin 28 TE Flush Deck, no generator, and two batteries, one behind the transmission, on the centerline, and the other is a bit behind my captains chair, starboard side, the bow thruster takes a lot out of the batteries when used, the draw down is significant, and I only use it when absolutely necessary. I replaced both batteries last year, pic of one of them, they are both the same
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Gregg M. Berkley 25 Ton Master USCG
2005 Albin 28 TE Flush Deck
Fairhaven, MA
2005 Albin 28 TE Flush Deck
Fairhaven, MA
- GSSeattle
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Hi Petey,
I have a 2000 28 engine box with a generator. I have two 4D AGM batteries (one under the helm floor panel, and one just forward of the port side deck hatch / box. Plenty of power for the bow thruster, although it does pull a lot and drops the voltage while I'm using it. I'm running three Garmin 943 XSVs, 24" Fantom Radar, and a fusion stereo. Not really worried about the house bank. The main draw is really the fridge.
I have a 2000 28 engine box with a generator. I have two 4D AGM batteries (one under the helm floor panel, and one just forward of the port side deck hatch / box. Plenty of power for the bow thruster, although it does pull a lot and drops the voltage while I'm using it. I'm running three Garmin 943 XSVs, 24" Fantom Radar, and a fusion stereo. Not really worried about the house bank. The main draw is really the fridge.
Greg
2000 Albin 28 TE "Turtle Express"
2000 Albin 28 TE "Turtle Express"
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Hey Petey,
I have a 2000 28TE with an engine box running (4) group 27 batteries. The batteries are located dead center between to two chairs and i’m on the hook with a couple of solar panels. No generator.
Power isn’t an issue even with the nevercold fridge but the side thruster definitely pulls them down. I typically don’t use the side thruster and noticed the other day the shear pin maybe gone. Just another thing to look at:).
I plan to put in a new fridge but haven’t decided yet.
Akim
2000 28TE/6LP-STE
Yippee Ki Yay
I have a 2000 28TE with an engine box running (4) group 27 batteries. The batteries are located dead center between to two chairs and i’m on the hook with a couple of solar panels. No generator.
Power isn’t an issue even with the nevercold fridge but the side thruster definitely pulls them down. I typically don’t use the side thruster and noticed the other day the shear pin maybe gone. Just another thing to look at:).
I plan to put in a new fridge but haven’t decided yet.
Akim
2000 28TE/6LP-STE
Yippee Ki Yay
- Norseman
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
I used to combine the batteries before using the bow thruster:
My boat had a button on the dash that would combine the start and the house
Bank for 30 seconds, no voltage drop, problem solved.
My boat had a button on the dash that would combine the start and the house
Bank for 30 seconds, no voltage drop, problem solved.
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
- Sisu22
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Since my engine is always running when I'm using the thruster, I've decided it's not worth it for me to have a dedicated bank for it.
1994 TE 28' w/ Cummins 250
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Sounds like you have the Yanmar. Do you wait for the heaters to go off before you use the thruster? Those heaters draw a huge amount of amperage and can definitely effect your thruster performance.
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- catalina_mike
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Our 99 had two batteries. I would not ever use the thruster unless the engine was running. Our Yanmar did not have the heaters hooked up.
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Sold - Albin 1999 28TE
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- REBMystic
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Concur - I only use thruster with engines running. (Same with windlass).catalina_mike wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:35 pm Our 99 had two batteries. I would not ever use the thruster unless the engine was running. Our Yanmar did not have the heaters hooked up.Albin Battery layout.pdf
- Rob
2001 Albin 31 TE
"Time On The Pond"
2001 Albin 31 TE
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
Agreed, anything else would be foolish on these boats.REBMystic wrote: ↑Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:14 amConcur - I only use thruster with engines running. (Same with windlass).catalina_mike wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:35 pm Our 99 had two batteries. I would not ever use the thruster unless the engine was running. Our Yanmar did not have the heaters hooked up.Albin Battery layout.pdf
I addition to the obvious, I can highly recommend combing the 2 battery banks when using the bow thruster to avoid a voltage drop that can ruin the thruster motor.
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
- Sisu22
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Re: 28TE batteries & bow thruster
From that diagram, I'm assuming that there is still only one battery switch on the boat... or is that switch just for the thruster?catalina_mike wrote: ↑Sat Sep 16, 2023 1:35 pm Our 99 had two batteries. I would not ever use the thruster unless the engine was running. Our Yanmar did not have the heaters hooked up.Albin Battery layout.pdf
1994 TE 28' w/ Cummins 250