Aft railings - how tall?

[SalishAire]

Since I hope to have stainless rail material left after my current project is complete (cockpit enclosure) - I'm pondering putting aft rails on Hyacinth. Can someone who has the rails that are "just right" let me know how tall they are.

Thanks
Norman Gregory
A25
Hyacinth
Lacey, Washington USA

[dkirsop]

The last thing I did before pulling my boat for winter was fabricate a stern rail and aft ladder to access the swim grid and dinghy. Once the wind dies down I will loosen the tarp to confirm the height and post a few pictures. I believe I settled on 22" for the railing height.

I used 7/8" stainless tubing and a 3/4" conduit bender to shape the rail. I have neither the tools nor talent for stainless welding so I used standard fittings with set screws to fasten it all together and it has come together as a very sturdy rail.

[WillieC]

The aft rails are about 26 inches off the deck to top of rail. Ours are the wrap around style with a single cable gate in the center. They feel safe...enough, or we are just used to it. There is not much room so everything feels constrained back there, but the height works for aiding in loading our dinghy when it goes on the BC hardtop. We also have a rail mounted grill which is a bit of a pain to use unless you are dockside. I'll be altering that also, if I ever finish the work on the hardtop/radar installation.

[DesertAlbin736]

Here's what the stock early model stern rail looks like on our boat. Some later deLuxe models added a split stern rail. They are about the same height as the bow pulpit. Ours also came with life lines, probably an option as part as the sail rig kit. Some folks don't like lifelines but I do. I added the extra pair of struts/stanchions as part of the lift davit installation.

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Here's the later model split stern rail on a 1978 boat that we looked at back in 2012 but didn't buy. I would consider something like this. Much easier to access a swim platform. I'm temped to modify ours to that shape but the existing design plus the life lines helps support the lift davits.

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[dkirsop]

Here are some photos of my finished project. The railing height is 22.5" to the underside of the top rail.

The deck flanges are through bolted on the outer edge and screwed on the inner edge as the hull/deck joint does not permit through bolting at this location. The finished product is quite strong with no noticeable deflection.

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[tribologist]

The original drawings are posted on the maritime history museum pages. I am not 100% sure this were teh actual ones. Sometimes the drawings were proposals or sketches or just early editions.

[DesertAlbin736]

Drawings duly saved to my collection. In the middle drawing with what appears to be davits and a teak platform over the aft cabin the text at the the top reads "Om akter lanternan placeras har kan ledningen dras genom davertens under ror in I akterruffen genom hal I basplattan". Which if the translator function in MS Word is correct translates to "If the stern [lantern?] is placed, the wire can be pulled through the davits [?] under rowing into the aft sleeve through the slip in the base plate" or something to that effect.

Is the translation more or less correct Ulf? Mine appears to be pretty close to that top 1969 drawing, except with the extensions to attach to the life lines. I considered modifying the stern rail to something like the annotated sketch at bottom to make it a step through like dkirsop's, but the stern rail going all the way across as built is part of the support structure for the davits. Also with the lifelines clipped to the stern rail also gives extra support to the davits, transmitting some of the stress up to the bow rail when the dinghy is carried. The angled support stanchions circled in red were added as part of the davit kit & which came with the Garhauer davits. Just had to be cut to fit.

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I see Dave (dkirsop) has snap davit latches on his stern rail. We had that too with our Boatex dinghy until that time off Nelson Island north of Garden Bay on the Sunshine Coast in 2016 when a wave caught the dinghy & tore it off & swamped it.

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Ulf (tribolgist) didn't see our dinghy on the davits because we left it on the truck in Tonawanda since it wouldn't be needed on the canal.

[tribologist]

Yes. Google Translate does pretty good with Swedish does not seem to know ” dävert”

Getting the dots right is important.. i åäö makes a difference

Om akterlanternan placeras här kan ledningen dras genom dävertens undre rör in i akterruffen genom hålet I basplattan".

Har=Have
Här= Here
Hal=Slippery
Hål=Hole
Ror=Rowing. (Like rowing the dinghy)
Rör=Pipe, tube or stir.

If the stern lantern is placed here, the cable can be pulled through the diver's lower tube into the stern ruff through the hole in the base plate ".

[DesertAlbin736]

Helps having a native Swedish speaker on board. Those dots & little circle superscripts are a mystery to me!


What does the A[little circle] R in the lower right corner of the brass plate mean? Only the A-25 model and 736 serial/hull number on our brass plate are stamped. the AR space was left blank. Is there any significance to that?

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An old Swedish language movie with subtitles ran on TCM the other day. Such a different language! I applaud anyone who can learn & transition from Swedish to English.

[tribologist]

År is year. You have to watch some Ingemar Bergman movies. ” A man called Ove” and the Swedish versions of the girl with a dragon tatoo are good too!

[DesertAlbin736]

Well, we know 1971 was the year. Last year before HIN numbers had to be engraved on the transom of boats sold new in the US.

I didn't pay much attention to the title, but I think Ingrid Bergman was in the one I watched some of. Didn't stick with the whole movie though. Besides Casablanca she was in "For Whom The Bell Tolls, with Gary Cooper" which was also on TCM recently.

[tribologist]

Lol. Ingrid Bergman vs Ingemar Bergman sure put you in different mode..

[tribologist]

https://youtu.be/f4yXBIigZbg