Albin 25 badges

[Dieselram94]

I’m sure someone has gone down this road before, but I’d like to find at least one Albin 25 badge (the metal ones on the side of the front cabin) as well as two “deluxe” badges that go under them. Any idea where to obtain these?
Thank you.

[nebulatech]

Mine are currently off the boat. Is there any way to "scan" them for 3d printing? They are a flimsy metal, maybe bronze, with probably a chrome coating. I have photos of where the pins are that hold them to the boat, and am happy to measure if it's helpful.

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[DesertAlbin736]

I lost one of the 'badges' off the port side during the road trip back from NY. Still have the other one in place on the other side, just the "Albin 25", mine isn't a DeLuxe. Wonder if it would be possible to make a clay impression mold, fire the clay, they pour lead or tin solder to make the copy? The solder screw posts to it. Oh boy, another little project!

[dkirsop]

If you have an original it should not be hard to find a foundry that could make a mold and cast a replacement. I had a small plaque cast a few years ago and it was quite affordable. A small foundry that produces a lot of funerary or trophy work would be a good place to start. Then send the castings out to a plating shop for a chrome finish or see if it can be done at the shop.

It's not like back in high school with sand and mallets and forges, Now they use silicone molds and induction furnaces - all very civilized and affordable.

[DesertAlbin736]

Great idea Dave, I'll try that . Then again things are more civilized in Canada.

[tribologist]

The Swedish Albinklubben use to sell reproduktions. I will check

[Dieselram94]

Thank you everyone! I still have one set of badges so I do have a model. I like the idea of having them recast if the reproductions are not available. Might be worthwhile having extras cast?

[DesertAlbin736]

Check this out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av2YrBBrkP4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoYVFltJAZs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p7I8IVmpSo

Going back to dkirsop's comment about foundries, seems that unless one had the setup to make their own lost PLA or wax mold the process of mold making is fairly time consuming & labor intensive which would translate to significant cost leading up to actually casting metal.

Our sailing friend up in Flagstaff, AZ has a 3D printer & a CNC milling machine so I wonder if he could do something with making an emblem.

[DesertAlbin736]

"Thank you everyone! I still have one set of badges so I do have a model. I like the idea of having them recast if the reproductions are not available. Might be worthwhile having extras cast?"

Yes, having extras cast would be a great idea, stock & sell the extras in the AOG store. I'd buy some spares on a cost plus basis. They're likely fairly expensive in terms of labor costs to make. In my case just the Albin 25 emblem & not the 'deLuxe'.

[Dieselram94]

"Thank you everyone! I still have one set of badges so I do have a model. I like the idea of having them recast if the reproductions are not available. Might be worthwhile having extras cast?"

Yes, having extras cast would be a great idea, stock & sell the extras in the AOG store. I'd buy some spares on a cost plus basis. They're likely fairly expensive in terms of labor costs to make. In my case just the Albin 25 emblem & not the 'deLuxe'.

Maybe your friend could do something with his equipment to make them, that kind of ability could prompt me to buy a 3D printer. I just know almost nothing about how to use one. As far as extras go I think it is definitely worth exploring, and at least as far as I’m concerned a cost only basis.
It would be pretty cool if we could get the “blueprint” or the “program” (I have no idea of the right terminology) for a open source way that anyone could 3D print their own badges. But even with that they would still need to be chrome plated. Is that even possible to chrome plate over 3D printed plastic? Would it be durable?

[tribologist]

Here are the ones Albinklubben sell. Its a member only ” benefit” but its cheap to be a member and they can write in english. They only hace some seconds left of the Albin 25. They are stainless.

[DesertAlbin736]

Update: My friend's 3D printer is a small one that can only do small objects. His suggestion is to make a silicone mold which could be used to cast one in plastics or to make a lost wax plug for a plaster mold.

Found this YouTube on making a replacement taillight lens for an antique car, but the process for replicating the emblem is the same.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WME8R2-Ot8E

All that sounds quite involved & a significant outlay for expensive materials (like the silicone which ain't cheap) not to mention access to a vacuum pump (to remove air bubbles in the silicone) and a foundry to cast the piece in metal.

I have a 1 lb, 5.5" by 3" by 1" block of modeling clay left over from my fiberglass hard top project back in 2015 . That clay was used to fillet the edges of the masonite mold for the the fiberglass lay up. I may try an experiment by making an impression of the emblem in clay and see if it will tolerate pouring in melted solder, of which I have several spools on hand. In theory the solder should not stick to smooth clay & be shiny silver color. Then I could solder mounting posts in place. We'll see.

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[tribologist]

The ones Albinklubben sell are only 150 Sek. Its like $18

[tribologist]

Water jetting them out of stainless is not a bad way to make them either bot it would be more $

[Dieselram94]

The ones Albinklubben sell are only 150 Sek. Its like $18

Wow!!! $18.00!!!!!
Is that for either the Albin 25 or the deluxe ones?
I tried looking on that site but I can’t find a way to translate it to English.