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Composting Heads

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Eastwind
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Composting Heads

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We have a 96 Command Bridge 32. Presently on the west coast of Florida. Like all boats the Albin has that familiar unwanted odour especially if we are onboard for a month or more. The head is a Raritan conventional style hand pump with an electric motor going to holding tank or via an ageing Lectra Scan unit.
In spite of having a system that cost a fair few bucks the system still smells, not badly but its there.

I have been seriously considering installing a C-Head (made in Florida) composting head.
There are a few issues with fitting it in place as the current head is on a platform as are all Command bridges, its part of the moulded inner shell. The C-Head shorty is only 15" high so thats not a problem .....
In any event I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this or composting marine heads in general.

Thanks.....
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Re: Composting Heads

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There's no reason that any head system should stink. When is the last time the waste hose was changed? Unless it's relatively modern hose, they permeate over time.

I know at least one 32CB has a composting toilet, but that boat was sold and I don't know if the new owner is active here. The previous owner swore by that toilet.
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Re: Composting Heads

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Thanks again Nancy. Our current head is not that bad compared with ones we have had on numerous Sailboats in the past. Our Lectra Scan unit is old and the hoses and holding tank probably original. (boat is new to us so there are a lot of hoses etc that need replacing) Just seemed easier to tear it all out and close off 2 below the water seacocks as a bonus.
The other concern is that the area we are in is jammed with Marine Parks and I don't think even the Lectra Scan is OK in those areas. We have a diverter valve to route waste that would have gone through the LS to the holding tank.
We also don't have pump out services at our dock we have to move the boat to the pump out.
Life was so much easier in the days when we were young and sailed our 26ft pace ship offshore to the Islands from Nova Scotia. We had a sextant and a bucket and chuck it.

This boat is a stay on it in the winter boat we live aboard if we can get there for @ 4 months of the year.
When we are away we figured we could empty the composting toilet and leave it clean for when we returned...

This is the unit we are looking at

https://www.c-head.com
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Oh, you stick and rag men and your tolerance for disgusting odors! :D
I believe the composting head on the 32 I referred to was an Air Head.

I'm 99% certain that your LectraSan is fine as long as it's routed into a holding tank. I don't know about Florida, but on inland waters, the overboard Y-valve has to be disabled.

Do you still spend summers in Nova Scotia?
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Re: Composting Heads

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I know the question is about composting heads. I’m familiar enough with them but I replaced the head in my 28 with a Raritan Freshhead. It’s plumbed into the fresh water system which means zero odors and it was designed with a bolt pattern that matches the stock manual heads. So no need to drill bolt holes, no need to supply electricity for the head fan and no need to drill a hole for the head vent (this is required for the Airhead). I highly recommend the Freshhead.
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Re: Composting Heads

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Thanks jms looks like a solid unit.
Thought some would find this amusing. After searching around for feedback about C-Head composting units I just found out that my neighbour in the slip next to me has one and recommends them,. hmmmmm! :oops:

>nancy..... we live in Nova Scotia but spend winters down south. Due to the pandemic we are stuck on terra firma... cheers.
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Odor is being caused by the accumulation of uric scale inside the hoses. Odor of this scale will permeate the hoses causing your current situation. There is a product on the market called "SEW Clean" produced by TRAC Ecologic which removes these uric scale deposits from the hoses. No scale... no stink! That simple. I've used it on my boat and it works as advertised. Hope this helps.
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hulamoon wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 9:28 am Odor is being caused by the accumulation of uric scale inside the hoses. Odor of this scale will permeate the hoses causing your current situation. There is a product on the market called "SEW Clean" produced by TRAC Ecologic which removes these uric scale deposits from the hoses. No scale... no stink! That simple. I've used it on my boat and it works as advertised. Hope this helps.
Wow, that is great info.
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hulamoon wrote: Sat May 08, 2021 9:28 am Odor is being caused by the accumulation of uric scale inside the hoses. Odor of this scale will permeate the hoses causing your current situation. There is a product on the market called "SEW Clean" produced by TRAC Ecologic which removes these uric scale deposits from the hoses. No scale... no stink! That simple. I've used it on my boat and it works as advertised. Hope this helps.

I descaled mine about two years ago with normal limescale remover. Took a couple of goes to get rid of the uric acid completely but it worked in the end. I now flush with fresh water and use jabsco toilet cleaner at the end of each day to control any further build up.

So far, pretty smell free!
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