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Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
- Norseman
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
More on fuses:
The mid float switch meltdown was most likely an internal failure of some kind, corrosion causing resistance and high temperatures perhaps? Initially I thought the pump needed a 10 amp fuse, but then realized there are 2 models of the Jabsco pump and they both look the same: 4 or 8 GPM, my boat has the 8 needing a 15 amp fuse.
Today I installed 4 AGC (fast blow) fuses whereas the old ones was MDL (slow blow) fuses. (All 15s)
I will also carry MDL fuses on the boat, but for now will try they AGC:
The meltdown of the switch spooked me: Horrible burned smell and fumes, Turned off all the 12 switches and the 12 volt panel and it kept burning/melting, turned off both battery switches and it kept burning/melting. (Auto pump function bypasses the panel, but not the fuse)
Let me know if anybody else had a similar problem with the mid bilge pump or switch.
The mid float switch meltdown was most likely an internal failure of some kind, corrosion causing resistance and high temperatures perhaps? Initially I thought the pump needed a 10 amp fuse, but then realized there are 2 models of the Jabsco pump and they both look the same: 4 or 8 GPM, my boat has the 8 needing a 15 amp fuse.
Today I installed 4 AGC (fast blow) fuses whereas the old ones was MDL (slow blow) fuses. (All 15s)
I will also carry MDL fuses on the boat, but for now will try they AGC:
The meltdown of the switch spooked me: Horrible burned smell and fumes, Turned off all the 12 switches and the 12 volt panel and it kept burning/melting, turned off both battery switches and it kept burning/melting. (Auto pump function bypasses the panel, but not the fuse)
Let me know if anybody else had a similar problem with the mid bilge pump or switch.
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Norseman - I long ago replaced the remote mounted Jabsco 38600 pump + Rule float switch setup with a Whale Supersub automatic low- profile pump. Much simpler and cheaper system. The Whale is super efficient, is well made and fits perfectly in the lowest area under the shaft log. I replaced the factory wiring on the bilge pump circuit with 10 gauge tinned wiring and use the same fuse location on the helm panel. One of the simplest and best mods I’ve done.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Good idea, I may go that way next time I remove the water pump for easier access.MerryKate wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2019 12:08 pm Norseman - I long ago replaced the remote mounted Jabsco 38600 pump + Rule float switch setup with a Whale Supersub automatic low- profile pump. Much simpler and cheaper system. The Whale is super efficient, is well made and fits perfectly in the lowest area under the shaft log. I replaced the factory wiring on the bilge pump circuit with 10 gauge tinned wiring and use the same fuse location on the helm panel. One of the simplest and best mods I’ve done.
Did you install the Whale with the engine in place, or removed?
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
No, with the engine in place. It’s not easy, but with lots of contortions I can barely reach one-handed almost back to where the flat spot on top of the skeg starts (just under the fwd edge of the fuel tank). I used the 3/4” outlet version, which is tiny, pre-assembled everything, and then kind of shoved it in place. I’ll try to take some pictures next time I’m at the boat. I did this a while ago and I’m not as skinny as I used to be !
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Installed a Furuno Navtex recently, good for long range weather forecast in the Bahamas. Pain in the rear to run the antenna wire, had to splice in 3 RG58 coax connectors and an extension as the cable was too short.
While I had all the panels off, ran cables for a future solar panel and controller.
While I had all the panels off, ran cables for a future solar panel and controller.
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2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
The controller can be remotely controlled via Bluetooth and apps on phone and iPad: Turn the panel On or Off, Equalization, read all watts, amps, daily history, etc. Clever technology..
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2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Screen shot from the Albin 28TE Group on Facebook showing the equipment I installed: Roughly $400.00 including shipping, another $50.00 (at least) for cable, connectors, cable ties, etc..
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2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Wasn't aware of an Albin 28 facebook page - a quick search came up empty. What size/type of panel is that? Looks smaller than 100W. Also, did you use z-clips to mount to the hardtop? Been looking for a setup to run my fridge/top off the house battery while on the hook. Would love more details...
Jim S.
2003 28 TE - Full Circle
2003 28 TE - Full Circle
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Panel mounted with rubber washers to prevent galvanic corrosion and dampen vibration. Each bracket has 4 rubber washers, 8 brackets, lots of rubber. Did the same with controller, rubber mounted.
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2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
jms02050 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:33 pm Wasn't aware of an Albin 28 facebook page - a quick search came up empty. What size/type of panel is that? Looks smaller than 100W. Also, did you use z-clips to mount to the hardtop? Been looking for a setup to run my fridge/top off the house battery while on the hook. Would love more details...
Search for Albin 28TE Boats on Facebook, can’t miss us..
The panel is 75 watts, but with an MPPT controller you get more performance, like a 100 watt panel, some clever engineering and a bit of magic going on.
Not quite Z clamps, more like double L.
Found a really good product, Anodized Aluminum, love it: Just the right size for the curved hard top on the Albin 28TE and plenty ventilation underneath for optimum performance.
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Nice looking installation. You should have more than enough power with that panel. It's great to be energy independent!
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Hit the wrong button and “Saved Draft” instead of posting another epic massage. How in Allah’s Name to I find the darn draft and post it?
Is there a basement full of saved drafts around here?
This is indeed a case for Nancy Drew, please help out an old dinosaur..
Is there a basement full of saved drafts around here?
This is indeed a case for Nancy Drew, please help out an old dinosaur..
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
- Norseman
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Here is the brackets:jms02050 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:33 pm Wasn't aware of an Albin 28 facebook page - a quick search came up empty. What size/type of panel is that? Looks smaller than 100W. Also, did you use z-clips to mount to the hardtop? Been looking for a setup to run my fridge/top off the house battery while on the hook. Would love more details...
. Windy Nation's Solar Panel Z-Bracket Mounting Kit
Windy Nation's Solar Panel Z-Bracket Mounting Kit makes it easy to mount solar panels to recreational vehicles (RV's), boats, cabins or anywhere else where you need a simple yet reliable method to mount solar panels. This kit is suitable for mounting solar panels up to 150 Watts.
What's Included:
4pcs anodized aluminum Z-Brackets
4pcs 1/4" diameter stainless steel bolts (1/2" long)
4pcs stainless steel flat washers
4pcs k-lock stainless steel nuts (will not vibrate loose)
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Did you find it yet? Toward the top right of any page, just below where it saysm "Hi, Norseman!" click on User Control Panel. On the left side, select Manage Drafts. Good luck!Norseman wrote: ↑Fri Jun 21, 2019 7:05 pm Hit the wrong button and “Saved Draft” instead of posting another epic massage. How in Allah’s Name to I find the darn draft and post it?
Is there a basement full of saved drafts around here?
This is indeed a case for Nancy Drew, please help out an old dinosaur..
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
- Norseman
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Re: Modifications, repairs and improvements, 28TE
Yup, found it and clicked save..No option to hit : “Post it now”
It was not terrible important, just a comment on something that somebody commented on..
It was not terrible important, just a comment on something that somebody commented on..
2001 28TE, 6LP-STE, 1,337 hrs, 19X18 four-blade wheel.