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Trim Tabs
- DCatSea
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Trim Tabs
This may be stupid question - but here goes:
When we took delivery of our 27FC in 2015, it had a set of ancient Lenco Trim Tabs on the transom, badly weeded, and with rusted hinge pins; only one worked. So, I took them off after our first season, and frankly don't miss them.
That said: what are your opinions on putting tabs on a displacement hull that maxes out at 8.5 knots (wind and tide permitting). Would there be any real performance advantages to putting a new set back on?
When we took delivery of our 27FC in 2015, it had a set of ancient Lenco Trim Tabs on the transom, badly weeded, and with rusted hinge pins; only one worked. So, I took them off after our first season, and frankly don't miss them.
That said: what are your opinions on putting tabs on a displacement hull that maxes out at 8.5 knots (wind and tide permitting). Would there be any real performance advantages to putting a new set back on?
Doug and Georgia
"Mazboot" - 1984 27 FC #142
Lehman 4D61
Tribe 9.5 yak
Jackson STAXX-11 yak
Alexandria City Marina - F-03
"Mazboot" - 1984 27 FC #142
Lehman 4D61
Tribe 9.5 yak
Jackson STAXX-11 yak
Alexandria City Marina - F-03
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Re: Trim Tabs
I vote "no advantage". If on a planing hull? Yes. On an Albin 27FC? I honestly don't know why. On a 27SC? Maybe, but I don't have experience with the SC's performance.
I've had many boats with trim tabs and never once thought my 27FC could have benefited from a pair.
Very odd them being there...
I've had many boats with trim tabs and never once thought my 27FC could have benefited from a pair.
Very odd them being there...
Jon B.
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
- DougSea
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- Home Port: Safe Harbor - Essex Island Marina, Essex, CT
- Location: Essex, Connecticut
Re: Trim Tabs
While they wouldn't help in the planing hull sense (adjusting bow rise and improving speed) I do wonder if they would help in an out of trim situation (side-to-side). I realize you can normally adjust the load in the boat - but sometimes things are more dynamic.
Just my 2 cents.
Just my 2 cents.
Doug
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
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Re: Trim Tabs
That's the only benefit I could possibly see, Doug. But I also wonder how much 8.5 knots (more like 6 when cruising) of water "rushing" past the tabs would actually make a difference.
If my boat was out of trim I'd just tell the kids to move to the other side. Then again, my 27FC just wallowed along happily anyway.
If my boat was out of trim I'd just tell the kids to move to the other side. Then again, my 27FC just wallowed along happily anyway.
Jon B.
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
- DCatSea
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- Home Port: Alexandria VA
- Location: Alexandria VA
Re: Trim Tabs
I took the tabs off because they didn't seem to do anything. I'll just trim for'd a tad - more chain?
I'm actually enjoying the wallow; it just goes on and on, pretty much regardless of what's going on all around. Getting to 8 is very exciting.
I think my question is answered.
Thanks to all
I'm actually enjoying the wallow; it just goes on and on, pretty much regardless of what's going on all around. Getting to 8 is very exciting.
I think my question is answered.
Thanks to all
Doug and Georgia
"Mazboot" - 1984 27 FC #142
Lehman 4D61
Tribe 9.5 yak
Jackson STAXX-11 yak
Alexandria City Marina - F-03
"Mazboot" - 1984 27 FC #142
Lehman 4D61
Tribe 9.5 yak
Jackson STAXX-11 yak
Alexandria City Marina - F-03
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Re: Trim Tabs
Never underestimate the benefit of "the wallow"!
Wish someone else was driving the boat so I could do that!
Wish someone else was driving the boat so I could do that!
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Jon B.
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
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Re: Trim Tabs
revisit the trim tab discussion: I was on my way back from "downriver" and at 1400 rpm (new tach..getting it calibrated next week so might be off) I travel at 10.5 kt +/_ (SOG via Furuno) ...yes the fuel burn is not as efficient ( ) but as I power past hull speed the bow does drop significantly ...but I was thinking if I had tabs I could get the last few inches of drop..as the tabs used to do on my planing hull fast boats..and my assumption is that then I would be getting better fuel economy.
Any thoughts?
( PS..I generally prefer slow but hey sometimes you just want to get to a dock)
Any thoughts?
( PS..I generally prefer slow but hey sometimes you just want to get to a dock)
1989 Albin 27 FC w/ Isuzu 157 hp, Ford 6.0 Diesel, giant trailer
6th, and most favorite boat yet
Cruising: Columbia River Portland to Bar, San Juans, Gulf Islands,
Desolation Sound, Sunshine Coast, Broughton Islands
6th, and most favorite boat yet
Cruising: Columbia River Portland to Bar, San Juans, Gulf Islands,
Desolation Sound, Sunshine Coast, Broughton Islands
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- Home Port: Mystic, CT
- Location: New Port Richey, FL
Re: Trim Tabs
You can decide if this is applicable...……….
My "ex" was an old 34 Mainship. Semi displacement hull, 160 hp engine with a top end of 10.5 knots, cruise was about 8 knots.
I put big tabs on it..42 x 12.
1) I could now get "on plane" at 7.5 knots as those big tabs could lift the a$$ end f the boat up (provided I had 12 feet of water under me).
2) The back end lift was great for running in shallow water.
3) When running in a beam wind, I could use one tab to beep the boat level.
4) At anchor, those big tabs acted as "rocker stoppers" dampening the motion from wakes, etc.
5) When anchored in Block Island, it was a place to store clams while snorkeling.
I think they will help you.
My "ex" was an old 34 Mainship. Semi displacement hull, 160 hp engine with a top end of 10.5 knots, cruise was about 8 knots.
I put big tabs on it..42 x 12.
1) I could now get "on plane" at 7.5 knots as those big tabs could lift the a$$ end f the boat up (provided I had 12 feet of water under me).
2) The back end lift was great for running in shallow water.
3) When running in a beam wind, I could use one tab to beep the boat level.
4) At anchor, those big tabs acted as "rocker stoppers" dampening the motion from wakes, etc.
5) When anchored in Block Island, it was a place to store clams while snorkeling.
I think they will help you.
Formerly
1983 40 Albin trunk cabin
Attitude Adjustment
Mystic, CT
1983 40 Albin trunk cabin
Attitude Adjustment
Mystic, CT
- DCatSea
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- Home Port: Alexandria VA
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Re: Trim Tabs
Don't they try to escape?
Doug and Georgia
"Mazboot" - 1984 27 FC #142
Lehman 4D61
Tribe 9.5 yak
Jackson STAXX-11 yak
Alexandria City Marina - F-03
"Mazboot" - 1984 27 FC #142
Lehman 4D61
Tribe 9.5 yak
Jackson STAXX-11 yak
Alexandria City Marina - F-03
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Re: Trim Tabs
Impossible there are too many screws holding them in place.
Oh...you mean the clams?
Formerly
1983 40 Albin trunk cabin
Attitude Adjustment
Mystic, CT
1983 40 Albin trunk cabin
Attitude Adjustment
Mystic, CT