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Height of swim platform
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Height of swim platform
At what height are people installing their swim platforms on the A25? I'll be installing one soon and am wondering what is the best height. Perhaps as measured from the waterline/bottom paint line.
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Re: Height of swim platform
Kerrye, check out the attached photo. The actual measurements are not there but I think you can see that the platform is just above the rear original cleat. It seems to work well at this height. Any lower and it would be underwater at 6kts.
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Re: Height of swim platform
Thank you. Very helpful.
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Re: Height of swim platform
I know this post is over a year old but...
Kerrye - I was wonder what you decided and how it worked out. Any chance you might have a measurement from the rub rail to the top of the platform? Also, I'd be interested in how you supported it, i.e. brackets used and how you dealt with the curvature of the transom.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Ray
Kerrye - I was wonder what you decided and how it worked out. Any chance you might have a measurement from the rub rail to the top of the platform? Also, I'd be interested in how you supported it, i.e. brackets used and how you dealt with the curvature of the transom.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Ray
Al Dente
1975 Albin 25 Deluxe, Hull #2350
Volvo Penta MD3B
Dinghy: 7'2" Achilles Inflatable w/ 2 Hp Honda
Residence: Southeast Pennsylvania
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1975 Albin 25 Deluxe, Hull #2350
Volvo Penta MD3B
Dinghy: 7'2" Achilles Inflatable w/ 2 Hp Honda
Residence: Southeast Pennsylvania
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Re: Height of swim platform
FWIW here is a shot showing a few details on my swim platform. The OP installed it. It is too narrow(side to side) for my taste and I am looking to add 2 more supports and longer planks to bring it the full width of the transom. A few things to mention:
- expand the pic to see the attachment points. for the 2 outer support attachments, avoid the imaginary column below the vents - go outside of them.
- to address the curvature, simply shape the inner plank and otherwise just go straight across.
- expand the pic to see the attachment points. for the 2 outer support attachments, avoid the imaginary column below the vents - go outside of them.
- to address the curvature, simply shape the inner plank and otherwise just go straight across.
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Re: Height of swim platform
Here's another angle. It shows the vents I referred to. All through-bolts are above the water line, difficult to see that. I would add that this one sits quite low to the water line and could probably stand to be a few inches higher.
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Re: Height of swim platform
Sunsetrider: Thanks for the pictures and comments. They're very helpful.
This is a reclamation project where I'm trying to fashion a swim platform taken off an old powerboat and fit it to my A25.
It started out much wider than my stern. I was able to separate each piece and cut them to the size I needed. Using the pieces I cut off, I was able to modify the front (edge that faces forward) of the platform so that it conforms to the curvature the transom. I'm in the process of reassembling it and hope to post some pictures when I'm done.
I've removed the panels in the aft cabin exposing the channels you mention and I'll be sure to avoid them as I mount the support brackets.
Originally the platform was mounted with 4 stainless steel ell brackets, 2.5" wide x 3.5" x 3.5" x 1/8" thick along with 2 stainless steel tubes. If at all possible, I'd like to reuse these brackets. However, if I mount them flush against the transom, they'll be on an angle under the platform.
I'm wondering if that would be problematic or am I being overly anal? The alternative would be to cut angled wood spacers to go between the brackets and the transom. If I do that, then the brackets would be perpendicular under the platform. Of course, I would thru-bolt the brackets (and angled spacers, if used) with a backing plate.
What do you think guys?
This is a reclamation project where I'm trying to fashion a swim platform taken off an old powerboat and fit it to my A25.
It started out much wider than my stern. I was able to separate each piece and cut them to the size I needed. Using the pieces I cut off, I was able to modify the front (edge that faces forward) of the platform so that it conforms to the curvature the transom. I'm in the process of reassembling it and hope to post some pictures when I'm done.
I've removed the panels in the aft cabin exposing the channels you mention and I'll be sure to avoid them as I mount the support brackets.
Originally the platform was mounted with 4 stainless steel ell brackets, 2.5" wide x 3.5" x 3.5" x 1/8" thick along with 2 stainless steel tubes. If at all possible, I'd like to reuse these brackets. However, if I mount them flush against the transom, they'll be on an angle under the platform.
I'm wondering if that would be problematic or am I being overly anal? The alternative would be to cut angled wood spacers to go between the brackets and the transom. If I do that, then the brackets would be perpendicular under the platform. Of course, I would thru-bolt the brackets (and angled spacers, if used) with a backing plate.
What do you think guys?
Al Dente
1975 Albin 25 Deluxe, Hull #2350
Volvo Penta MD3B
Dinghy: 7'2" Achilles Inflatable w/ 2 Hp Honda
Residence: Southeast Pennsylvania
Homeport: Sea Isle City, NJ
1975 Albin 25 Deluxe, Hull #2350
Volvo Penta MD3B
Dinghy: 7'2" Achilles Inflatable w/ 2 Hp Honda
Residence: Southeast Pennsylvania
Homeport: Sea Isle City, NJ
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Re: Height of swim platform
Your concern is: You'll have a sloping swim platform if you bolt directly to the transom, right? You'll probably have to dry fit to see how bad that slope ends up being. Need to figure how much of an angle you have to compensate for. Maybe you can grind away something.
Ideas:
Instead of making spacers against the transom, make spacers against the underside of the platform or route/file it down?
If you go against the transom I wouldn't use wood. I'd use a dense material like G10 fiberglass board and I'd just thru bolt and glue it with 3M5200
Ideas:
Instead of making spacers against the transom, make spacers against the underside of the platform or route/file it down?
If you go against the transom I wouldn't use wood. I'd use a dense material like G10 fiberglass board and I'd just thru bolt and glue it with 3M5200
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Re: Height of swim platform
Ray, if I understand, you are concerned about both angles but may only be considering one, or have already determined that one angle is close enough. A straight transom that is also plumb can use 90 degree brackets mounted straight off the transom. Life is good with right angles. Since the lovely A25 was designed by an artist and not a technician, the stern is neither plumb nor straight. And, what is plumb on a rocking and rolling boat with a variable center of gravity and waterline depending on payload and the effect of the moon?
To the point: if the large angle makes the platform close enough to 'level', and if the brackets are from a boat with a flat transom, then I would probably mount them tight to the stern and let them radiate out, following the curvature of the hull, thus making them not square to the individual planks of the platform. And, as JT points out, if the platform is not level enough, come up with some kind of wedge between the top of the bracket and the bottom of the platform. Maybe mount your platform to new flatstock and have spacers cut to make up the difference and provide solid mounting to your brackets. Then you can either through-bolt them or have them welded.
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To the point: if the large angle makes the platform close enough to 'level', and if the brackets are from a boat with a flat transom, then I would probably mount them tight to the stern and let them radiate out, following the curvature of the hull, thus making them not square to the individual planks of the platform. And, as JT points out, if the platform is not level enough, come up with some kind of wedge between the top of the bracket and the bottom of the platform. Maybe mount your platform to new flatstock and have spacers cut to make up the difference and provide solid mounting to your brackets. Then you can either through-bolt them or have them welded.
Ain't it fun?
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Re: Height of swim platform
You may want to check out this site. shatooshandpashminablogspot.com she has a whole section to include templates and where to place the brackets to avoid the vent system on the 25............
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Re: Height of swim platform
That doesn't sound like the most rugged mount, and then you'll have to make modifications to get it to fit your hull. If it was me, I think I'd start over from scratch if you want something that won't get knocked around if you happen to hit a piling while dockingstxray wrote:Originally the platform was mounted with 4 stainless steel ell brackets, 2.5" wide x 3.5" x 3.5" x 1/8" thick along with 2 stainless steel tubes. If at all possible, I'd like to reuse these brackets. However, if I mount them flush against the transom, they'll be on an angle under the platform.
What do you think guys?
I made my own swim platform from scratch, so of course I had to make the mounting brackets as well. I ordered some 1" by 1/4 stainless on eBay and cut and welded the brackets. I custom made them to match the angles of the transom so the platform would be parallel with the water. Not that hard to do and it probably cost me only $25 or $30 to make them
I epoxied pieces of plywood together to make 1 1/2 inch backing plates for the bolts inside the hull
Don
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Re: Height of swim platform
FWIW, here's ours. Yes it's down low, gets wet under way, but doesn't seem to cause any problems. If I had an A27 with wide beam transom, I'd do like our old dinghy snap davit set up used to be, as shown in the middle photo.
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Re: Height of swim platform
I'm going mount mine so it's about 3-4" above the waterline. I don't think the swim platform should be awash underway or at anchor.
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Re: Height of swim platform
On an A27 if you mount it at the same height as the factory rub strakes on either side, it will be perfect. That puts it a few inches above the exhaust and it will be just far enough above the water when underway . . . . plus, it just looks best at that height
Don
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Re: Height of swim platform
Thanks for all the information. I can't imagine doing this restoration without this forum & all your support.
BetaDon: I like your suggestion for welded SS brackets as it will solve all my support issues. I sourced the steel now I just need to find someone to do the welding.
In your post you mentioned, "...factory rub strakes". Pardon my ignorance but, what are rub strakes and does the A25 have them?
Thanks to all
BetaDon: I like your suggestion for welded SS brackets as it will solve all my support issues. I sourced the steel now I just need to find someone to do the welding.
In your post you mentioned, "...factory rub strakes". Pardon my ignorance but, what are rub strakes and does the A25 have them?
Thanks to all
Al Dente
1975 Albin 25 Deluxe, Hull #2350
Volvo Penta MD3B
Dinghy: 7'2" Achilles Inflatable w/ 2 Hp Honda
Residence: Southeast Pennsylvania
Homeport: Sea Isle City, NJ
1975 Albin 25 Deluxe, Hull #2350
Volvo Penta MD3B
Dinghy: 7'2" Achilles Inflatable w/ 2 Hp Honda
Residence: Southeast Pennsylvania
Homeport: Sea Isle City, NJ