28 Length

[Captain Starbucks]

Hi,

My wife and I are interested in the Albin 28 to replace our very slow Ranger Tug 25. We love the boat but are looking at some faster options. The 28TE keeps making it to the top of the list for a variety of reasons.

I am concerned with the tip to tip length. Looks like the published figures are 31'4" from the pulpit to the end of the swim platform. I need to be under or not longer than 30' due to highly regulated marina rules. I'm in Seattle, I've found a company that will put a hinge on the pulpit. Any guesses on the LOA minus the pulpit?

Thank you,

Rob in Seattle/Shilshole

[carolmarie]

Wow, you are really, really, really splitting hairs here. My guess is that even with a hinged pulpit (creative, to say the least, albeit not likely practical) you would only gain less than a foot. My USCG certificate of documentation lists my 28TE as 28.3 feet which is the same is in the official builder's certification.
If forced to include the pulpit and swim platform then you'll be hard pressed to get under the 30 foot requirement.
Good luck; I'd try for an exemption!
Carol Marie, 2001, 28TE, 6LP-STE

[Captain Starbucks]

I Know, Its Ridiculous but Its Either Going To Be The Pulpit Or The Swim Step Or Probably Both. Almost A Two Year Wait For A Bigger Slip At My Marina So I Would Hate To Drag A Boat From The East Coast To Seattle Just To Find Out I Can't Use It For A Year.

[Pitou]

From the Albin Tech Specs Bulletin:

28' 4" hull only
31' 4" hull/pulpit/swim platform
29' 11" hull and pulpit

I understand your marina dilema. I've been there. The inside fairway at my marina had a length limitation of 32 ft. which worked great for my 28 TE. As I began to explore the bigger boat option I found myself needing to move to the outside fairway which has a 42 ft. limitation. No matter the overall length of your boat the slip fee was the same / $ 3,200 for the inside and $ 5,200 on the outside. I tried to squeeze the 31TE inside, but I was flatly denied. I was hoping that hinging the platform might bring me some leeway reducing the overall of 34' 9" to 33' and inches. I was told a few inches would be no problem, but 1 ft. and inches would open the floodgates. Not a chance. I was lucky (I suppose) that something opened up on the outside and I'm paying $ 2,000 for an additional 2' 9"! At least there is now room for my RIB too!

I would not be considering hinging the pulpit as it can and sometimes does take some stress when hauling a stuck anchor .. it happens.

If you hinged the swim platform you would be only inches over. I'd float that with the marina. I've attached some pictures from a Grand Banks that did just that on our outer slips. A piano hinge, some stainless rods and plates and this guy just squeezes in. Best of luck and welcome aboard.

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[johnmurray]

My yacht club also has a 30 foot limit, but it was always interpreted as 30 "nominal" feet meaning if the builder calls the boat a 30, it is 30 feet long regardless of what might be sticking out fore and aft to make its actual length longer. (We pay by the number of feet of dock space used, not the boat length.) This interpretation caused so many problems that the rule was changed to a maximum of 33 feet including everything...pulpits, anchor rollers swim plaforms, dink motors etc. My A-30FC came in under this new limit with a full inch to spare!
If you cannot convince your yacht club to see reason, I would not fool around with a hinged pulpit. There would be too much stress in heavy anchoring conditions. A safer bet in my opinion would be the removal of the swim platform and the use of a less convenient rope ladder.

[Captain Starbucks]

Sorry About The Capital Letters, Phone Has A Mind Of Its Own. Great Options, I Think The Most Realistic Option Is To Remove The Swim Grid. Probably The Least Expensive As Well. The Marina Is SeriouS About 30' MaX.My Buddy Was Forced To Cut The Pulpit Off His Cal 29 Or Get Kicked Out. Many Marina Options Around But This One Is 5 Mins From Home.

Next Question, Who Lives In The Puget Sound Region That Would Be Willing To Give My Wife And I A Ride?

[whwells]

Captain Starbucks: ROB:Welcome to AOG. Well, let me start by saying I like the name as a Starbucks fan. I am sure we can get you a ride with a 28TE member from the PNW Group.
We will be meeting informally after the Seattle Boat Show on the 24th. There will be 2 28te owner's at the dinner. Both are great guys. One you will need to go up to Anacortes for the ride. Dave is on Bainbridge Island. I will be attending the show with him on Friday afternoon before the meet and on Sat. the 25th.
If you can get away for the PreRendevzous meet (small group of us - locals with or without spouses) we can talk to Dave and Mark as to whether they can get you the ride. I would be happy to take you out in the 35te but it is a different boat than one of your interests.
There has been a 2006 28te forsale in Seattle for a couple years. I think it is still listed. It is a bit spendy but has been stored inside/ and has some extra options. Really great looking boat and by the time you get one from back east a lot of monies will have gone for shipping and handling.
You can get details for the PreRendevzous meet by checking the PNW Rendevzous section of this forum. We would be happy to meet and have you attend as an interested future Albin owner and member of this group. Hate to see you have to remove things from the boat. The Anacortes Marina required me to move up from a 38' slip to 40' for the same reasons after I hung the dingy on the back.
Drop me PM and we can talk about meeting up the weekend of the 24th at the PreRendevzous if you are available. I will also talk with Dave regarding your interests - and you may well here from him directly.
whwells "Howard
2006 35TE SPORTFISHER/FLYBRIDGE CONV.
2004 OSPREY PILOTHOUSE 22

[RobS]

The pulpit should not even be considered as a possibility. I would simply remove the swim platform and use a christmas tree dive ladder with a slip in bracket mounted right under the transom door. Get on the list for the bigger slip and then reinstall the platform at that time. This way no surgery on the boat needed and all of your platform hardware gets replaced and re-bedded. win win.

[Captain Starbucks]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I do believe removing the step is the best way....reversible.

Howard, PM sent.

[RobS]

So what does your tug cruise at, should be about 15 knots, no? The Albin 28 is only gonna give you a few knots over that and you're giving up a lot of comfortable space in the tug.

[Captain Starbucks]

12 kts. 3400 rpm is Max continuous on m 2.0 liter 4 cyl Yanmar. At 3400, I get 12 knots, And I have one of only two 25's made with the 180 hp. Most have the 150. At 200 rpm over max it'll do 22 knots but only had it there once for a few seconds just to check WOT. Of course we all want a fast boat, but I think I can live with all the good the 28 offers and be okay with 18 kt cruise at about 2 mpg. I'm getting only 2.2 NMPG now at 12 kts.

[RobS]

Got it, changing to the 28TE makes sense, you'll get 50% more speed and still have good economy. My 28 is listed here and on THT but she's a little far from you!

[whwells]

Cpt. Starbucks: The 2006 Albin 28te still comes up in Seattle, Wa. search. Could be an old listing after this much time. Price has been the same for at least 18 months at 120,000. However, it does have some extra interior amenities with very low hours inside storage in Seattle. That is worth a lot. I can see Raymarine Radar but can't recall the other electronics discussed. It is a blue hull flush deck.
Spoke with the Broker last year as I am thinking about a smaller Albin. Owner is going up to a 40 plus boat and was not interested in any trades. As I said it is great looking boat and after all this time maybe there is hope for flexibility.
whwells "Howard"

[D.Gideon]

I have the same problem in Florida. Rob S, could you elaborate on the Christmas Tree ladder? Sounds interesting - I'm not familiar with it. Where would I obtain one and the bracket? Thanks.

D. Gideon
Turlough
28TE

[RobS]

I have the same problem in Florida. Rob S, could you elaborate on the Christmas Tree ladder? Sounds interesting - I'm not familiar with it. Where would I obtain one and the bracket? Thanks.

D. Gideon
Turlough
28TE

Here it is on Windline's site: https://windline.com/index.php?route=pr ... path=59_70

And on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/3-Step-Dive-Sport ... B007FY3BHS

And an image from Google Images.