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Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
- RobS
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Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Is it just me or are we all seeing the rules of the road often ignored? On a 20 mile run home yesterday there were 4 crossings where I was the stand-on and I ended up having to give-way.
Are people ignorant or they just don't care? Or perhaps their threshold of when close is too close is much different than mine and they want to wait and see if we are going to really be on a collision course before giving way.
Whatever the reasoning it's too common and very annoying. Maybe this new NY Boating License requirement will help.
Are people ignorant or they just don't care? Or perhaps their threshold of when close is too close is much different than mine and they want to wait and see if we are going to really be on a collision course before giving way.
Whatever the reasoning it's too common and very annoying. Maybe this new NY Boating License requirement will help.
Last edited by RobS on Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
- Pitou
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Rules of the road ... what road, we're on the water! Ignorant in my book and way to much of it.
I do believe that most boaters think that putting the throttle down and getting there first wins. Stay aware, stay safe and don't forget the eyes in the back of your head! Too many people jumping into that twin outboard 28 - 32 as their first boat with no boating experience or education.
I do believe that most boaters think that putting the throttle down and getting there first wins. Stay aware, stay safe and don't forget the eyes in the back of your head! Too many people jumping into that twin outboard 28 - 32 as their first boat with no boating experience or education.
kevinS
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Former Boats:
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Cummins QSC 8.3 / 500 hp
December '13 - April '23
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April '04 ~ May '13
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Former Boats:
- 2006 31TE / Hull# 221
Cummins QSC 8.3 / 500 hp
December '13 - April '23
- 2002 / 28TE / Hull# 614
Cummins 6BTA 370 hp / Alaskan Bulkhead
April '04 ~ May '13
- RobS
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
My Furuno eyes are always on. With "Trails" enabled it's easy to see the moving threats!Pitou wrote:....don't forget the eyes in the back of your head!....
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Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Ct has had a license requirement for many years now and based on that I don't think it will help much.RobS wrote: Maybe this new NY Boating License requirement will help.
Formerly
1983 40 Albin trunk cabin
Attitude Adjustment
Mystic, CT
1983 40 Albin trunk cabin
Attitude Adjustment
Mystic, CT
- RobS
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Thanks for the encouragement Jay. Yeah I've spent enough time in those waters too, good point..
Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
We were the stand on vessel on Weds but did give way to the US submarine bearing down on us and intersecting our course through the Race! It was quite a sight to see the huge sub cross our bow - filmed it too. This was after having a pod of 35 - 40 Atlantic White-sided dolphins join Paumanok and swim under and around the boat in Block Island Sound. An amazing and memorable trip home from Block!
Marcy K
A 34 Paumanok
Westbrook, CT
Marcy K
A 34 Paumanok
Westbrook, CT
Marcy K
A 34 Paumanok 1986
Cape Cod MA
A 34 Paumanok 1986
Cape Cod MA
- RobS
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Marcy that is just too weird!
Back in 2011 mid-summer we were heading back from Block to Long Island and half way btwn MTK and BI we crossed paths with this:
And then (on that same run) in Gardiners we came across these guys:
Back in 2011 mid-summer we were heading back from Block to Long Island and half way btwn MTK and BI we crossed paths with this:
And then (on that same run) in Gardiners we came across these guys:
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Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
- jcollins
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
I'm glad to hear that I am not the only one that feels this way. I spent way too much time learning the ColRegs only to forget about it in real life. I just don't see how licensing is going to make these newbies understand how things work. I could go on and on...Rules of the road ... what road, we're on the water!
John
Former - 28 TE Convertible"Afterglow"
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
I swear they think they're on 95 in their cars. Defense is the best way to go. Luckily, being in a 40' boat gives some of these crazies a reason to turn........some days I feel like a slalom pole out there. Boat wakes from a 38' Searay or Carver 200' off my side also make for a fun time............big ocean out there, guess some people like a little togetherness.
Mike and Sue Phillips
Warwick, RI
SUSAN HELENA 1985 40' Trawler
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
I think many think that because the sea doesn't have yellow lines down the middle and no traffic signs it is free to roam. I bet I could ask that question to most of my water rat friends from my teenage years and they wouldn't have any idea what stand on or give way meant. I learned by reading Chapman's and taking a Power Squadron course.
They do have common sense though and would just bear off, regardless of who is privileged.
"Besides, it's not a road anyway!" I feel your pain, Rob.
In other sub news... I went past Electric Boat on the Cross Sound Ferry today. Two subs in the docks today.
They do have common sense though and would just bear off, regardless of who is privileged.
"Besides, it's not a road anyway!" I feel your pain, Rob.
In other sub news... I went past Electric Boat on the Cross Sound Ferry today. Two subs in the docks today.
Jon B.
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
Former owner of...
"Bunkie" - a 1984 A27FC
New owner of...
1977 A25 deLuxe - a work in progress
- Tree
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Over here in off the coast of the Isle of Wight, the yachties seem to do as they please.
We have hard running tides here in the Solent and the number of yachties that insist on fighting their way around the bow of an anchored boat is unreal. One once even did a full 180 and turned round and T boned us, one of them fell in the water and the other was drunk leaving us to do the rescue.
I've sat my dayskipper and yachtmaster exams and I feel I have pretty good authority when it comes to understanding the rules of the road.
The phrase that springs to mind when we are anchored and have to shout at the yachties to take action is the reply they give....
"you're on my course!"
Numpties!
We have hard running tides here in the Solent and the number of yachties that insist on fighting their way around the bow of an anchored boat is unreal. One once even did a full 180 and turned round and T boned us, one of them fell in the water and the other was drunk leaving us to do the rescue.
I've sat my dayskipper and yachtmaster exams and I feel I have pretty good authority when it comes to understanding the rules of the road.
The phrase that springs to mind when we are anchored and have to shout at the yachties to take action is the reply they give....
"you're on my course!"
Numpties!
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Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Ignorant is my vote. Very few people in the US know that 5 blasts on the horn means "danger". If you do less, it means either "I'm passing you on the left or right". A lot of idiots out there. I have taken to touring on weekdays when most of the idiots are on land. Too bad. Even then, like today, you see someone leave the helm and their boat is headed at you. They're looking for another beer or some other tool but meanwhile you have to figure out what to do. If you give them that look, they look back like "well, I didn't kill you...what's the problem?" It feels like drivers on 495 back when I lived on Long Island. The only remedy I can think of is to call the boat police or harbormaster to deal with live issues.
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
I thought of this post yesterday as the admiral and I were cruising. Our first stop was Middle River for lunch. It was like rush hour on 695. Boats everywhere. No courtesy for other boaters. Big wakes! The bay was less than a foot but the river was 2-3's. Half way in I said the heck with this and turned around. We cruised into the bay and it was perfect. We ended up going to Tolchester, then Worton Creek. A high of 90 in October? I just laughed thinking about this post.
John
Former - 28 TE Convertible"Afterglow"
Former - 28 TE Convertible"Afterglow"
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
Whenever my wife and I are heading across Nantucket Sound heading for Martha's Vineyard, and see another boat approaching, we take side bets on: "What's this Yahoo going to do?" Rules of the road? Forgetaboutit!!!!
All it takes these days is money to own a boat.......no brains required.
Many of these guys break every rule......when you hit them with your horn......all you get is a "surprised look" or better yet, "the Finger".
Whether is be Routes 95, 495, 128 or the water........drive defensively!
The older I get....the more I respect Sailboaters..............most know what they're doing.
All it takes these days is money to own a boat.......no brains required.
Many of these guys break every rule......when you hit them with your horn......all you get is a "surprised look" or better yet, "the Finger".
Whether is be Routes 95, 495, 128 or the water........drive defensively!
The older I get....the more I respect Sailboaters..............most know what they're doing.
Bob
2003 Albin 28 TE
Santosha
2003 Albin 28 TE
Santosha
- RobS
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Re: Rules of the Road: Is it just me?
I agree about the sailor's, I am much more comfortable when they come idling into a tight anchorage in the afternoon for a night on the hook than when most powerboaters come in and all I can think is, please keep going, don't drop anchor over here.
I certainly agree that the biggest help in dealing with the approaching boats is to make your move early and obvious. Then you are hopefully making the right decision for him/her before they have a chance to make the wrong one.
John, just the opposite here, yesterday we fished on T-R, my pops and Matt (mhanna). It was blowing and raining so the ignorant weekend warriors were off the water and instead out on the North Fork pumpkin picking, waiting in line at the winery's, running around in corn mazes and then lining their SUV's up in bumper to bumper traffic with bails of hay atop - NO THANKS. It was a perfect day to be on an Albin and I'm sure all the wet cold guys bundled up on the center console's would agree. And a 40" striper on our first bass trip of the year on T-R was a nice start!
I certainly agree that the biggest help in dealing with the approaching boats is to make your move early and obvious. Then you are hopefully making the right decision for him/her before they have a chance to make the wrong one.
John, just the opposite here, yesterday we fished on T-R, my pops and Matt (mhanna). It was blowing and raining so the ignorant weekend warriors were off the water and instead out on the North Fork pumpkin picking, waiting in line at the winery's, running around in corn mazes and then lining their SUV's up in bumper to bumper traffic with bails of hay atop - NO THANKS. It was a perfect day to be on an Albin and I'm sure all the wet cold guys bundled up on the center console's would agree. And a 40" striper on our first bass trip of the year on T-R was a nice start!
Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.