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Hand Rails on a 28TE
- Tree
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Hand Rails on a 28TE
Good Morning All,
I'm hoping to have an Albin over here in the UK in about 6 weeks time (surveys are all complete and all looks good) but one thing I do feel I need to get done quite quickly is fit some hand rails around the gunwales. I am 6'4" and my father is in his 70's but still very active so we tend to run offshore a fair bit. More so than anything it is for the increased safety of my father when he goes to sea alone, with the added bonus of somewhere to fit some rod holders while fishing.
Now, while one of the chaps that fishes with us owns a fabrication company dealing with fittings for superyachts (and i'm sure he will work out what we need) does anyone on the boards have hand rails fitted and could possibly pop up some pictures to give me some ideas?
cheers
Lee
I'm hoping to have an Albin over here in the UK in about 6 weeks time (surveys are all complete and all looks good) but one thing I do feel I need to get done quite quickly is fit some hand rails around the gunwales. I am 6'4" and my father is in his 70's but still very active so we tend to run offshore a fair bit. More so than anything it is for the increased safety of my father when he goes to sea alone, with the added bonus of somewhere to fit some rod holders while fishing.
Now, while one of the chaps that fishes with us owns a fabrication company dealing with fittings for superyachts (and i'm sure he will work out what we need) does anyone on the boards have hand rails fitted and could possibly pop up some pictures to give me some ideas?
cheers
Lee
Fisher Price 2
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
- DougSea
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- Home Port: Safe Harbor - Essex Island Marina, Essex, CT
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
Hi Lee,
No pictures for you, but two questions.
Are you referring to rails around the cockpit? I'm assuming the forward rails are still on this boat.
And, is this a flush deck or engine box model? The engine box has higher free board than the flush decks. I'm 6'2" and never felt worried about going over the side. The toe rails really help.
And while the rails may prevent an "Unintended disembarking" the bigger thing for me is a way back onto the boat, from the water, by myself. On our 28 we had a boarding ladder that could be deployed from the water and many have added a secure grab handle to help. On our 35, with no swim platform, I have a dive ladder in a flip up bracket to get myself back aboard. I make sure it's back there when I go out by myself.
No pictures for you, but two questions.
Are you referring to rails around the cockpit? I'm assuming the forward rails are still on this boat.
And, is this a flush deck or engine box model? The engine box has higher free board than the flush decks. I'm 6'2" and never felt worried about going over the side. The toe rails really help.
And while the rails may prevent an "Unintended disembarking" the bigger thing for me is a way back onto the boat, from the water, by myself. On our 28 we had a boarding ladder that could be deployed from the water and many have added a secure grab handle to help. On our 35, with no swim platform, I have a dive ladder in a flip up bracket to get myself back aboard. I make sure it's back there when I go out by myself.
Doug
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
- Tree
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
Hi Doug,
What we are looking to do is fit handrails around the cockpit area, the forward rails are on the boat. We do a lot of fishing in the winter over here on the anchor with strong tide runs. Should you slip over the side you'd have little chance of getting back in, hence making it that little bit safer. The added bonus of course is that it gives you somewhere to put rod holders. Really its just something we are used to over this side, most boats are fitted with hand rails using 1 1/4" diameter stainless tube, which gives a good size to hold on to.
The Boat is a 2000 engine box model, my only reason behind it is that my friend has also imported a 28TE and we've been in some horrendous conditions with that. I'm just uploading the video to YouTube now as it happens.
I guess its just what you're comfortable with.
Lee
What we are looking to do is fit handrails around the cockpit area, the forward rails are on the boat. We do a lot of fishing in the winter over here on the anchor with strong tide runs. Should you slip over the side you'd have little chance of getting back in, hence making it that little bit safer. The added bonus of course is that it gives you somewhere to put rod holders. Really its just something we are used to over this side, most boats are fitted with hand rails using 1 1/4" diameter stainless tube, which gives a good size to hold on to.
The Boat is a 2000 engine box model, my only reason behind it is that my friend has also imported a 28TE and we've been in some horrendous conditions with that. I'm just uploading the video to YouTube now as it happens.
I guess its just what you're comfortable with.
Lee
Fisher Price 2
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
- DougSea
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- Home Port: Safe Harbor - Essex Island Marina, Essex, CT
- Location: Essex, Connecticut
Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
Makes perfect sense. Seems like a railing system would be something that would be reasonably easy to have fabricated, but I haven't seen that done here. Do think I'd still consider a harness and jackline of some sort if I was out by myself, since even with rails and due care things can still go wrong!
Edit - I did a google search and found a posting here on AOG that has a picture of cockpit rails on a 28. You can try and PM the owner/member.
http://albinowners.net/aog/viewtopic.php?p=8753
Also found one on TheHullTruth.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale- ... eck.html#b
And one more on Boatquest.
http://www.boatquest.com/listing/14640/ ... bZ7RfaY7eg
If you go to this one there are several pictures of the cockpit and rail.
Edit - I did a google search and found a posting here on AOG that has a picture of cockpit rails on a 28. You can try and PM the owner/member.
http://albinowners.net/aog/viewtopic.php?p=8753
Also found one on TheHullTruth.
http://www.thehulltruth.com/boats-sale- ... eck.html#b
And one more on Boatquest.
http://www.boatquest.com/listing/14640/ ... bZ7RfaY7eg
If you go to this one there are several pictures of the cockpit and rail.
Doug
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
- Tree
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
Thats perfect! The sides are easy to do, what I couldn't get my head around was how to do the stern and still make use of the lockers and the stern door yet try and keep it looking OEM. I think I would put the rails more outboard in line with the bow rails as the gunwales are wide enough to utilise as somewhere to sit on.
I shall pass the pictures on to my fabricator so when the boat arrives, we've got some ideas to work with.
I shall pass the pictures on to my fabricator so when the boat arrives, we've got some ideas to work with.
Fisher Price 2
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
- RobS
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
I see that as the 3 boats Doug found were all from "your side"Tree wrote:H...Really its just something we are used to over this side...
Nice job Doug!
Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
- DougSea
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
Thanks Rob! It's amazing what a Google image search can do with the right keywords. However...those boats are all to the west, I'm pretty sure Lee's side is the other direction...RobS wrote:I see that as the 3 boats Doug found were all from "your side"Tree wrote:H...Really its just something we are used to over this side...
Nice job Doug!
Doug
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
Sonny IV
2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
- RobS
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
You are right, oops, I thought he was a PNW guy..
Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
- Tree
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
Afraid not Rob!
Currently there are only 3 Albin 28's over here in the UK - once mine arrives then all 4 will be within a 5 mile radius of each other!
Currently there are only 3 Albin 28's over here in the UK - once mine arrives then all 4 will be within a 5 mile radius of each other!
Fisher Price 2
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
Hull Number AUL28489L900
Yanmar 6LP-STE
Built in Portsmouth RI, USA - Berthed in Portsmouth Hampshire, United Kingdom.
- RobS
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Re: Hand Rails on a 28TE
Cool. There's only 3 within a 5 mile radius of mine..
Rob S.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
"TENACIOUS"
1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
(Former Owner)
"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.