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High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
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High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
Hi all hope someone can help. I have a 31 TE single Cummins. My drive shaft was recently shortened by 2 inches because you could not remove the prop without dropping the rudder. The shaft was re-keyed new cutlas bearing placed. Now after running the boat for about 30 mins, when I drop back into slow forward , I hear a high pitched squeal. Goes away in neutral. Out it back in gear, it returns. At higher rpm you don't hear it.
When it first started, you could only hear it in forward, now you can hear it in reverse.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Ben
When it first started, you could only hear it in forward, now you can hear it in reverse.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Ben
Ben
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31 TE
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
Have you ruled out the belts? The fact that in/out of gear changes the noise could just be due to the slight rpm change. When you hear the squeal, spray the belts with belt dressing and see if the noise changes.
Rob S.
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
The belt is a serpentine. If Rob's suggestion doesn't pan out, remove the belt (takes 10 seconds with a breaker bar) and check the idler pulley by hand to see if the bearing makes noise (a possible troublesome area of a Cummins 6BT).
I would look at the latest change for the cause....how is the cutlass bearing cooled? Is it a dripless? Is it stll getting water for lubrication? Does the shaft appear to run out of round?
I would look at the latest change for the cause....how is the cutlass bearing cooled? Is it a dripless? Is it stll getting water for lubrication? Does the shaft appear to run out of round?
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
Did you have or add a brush on the shaft? These can be quite noisy at low speed until they wear in.
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
Thanks for all the help. Belts are ok. Cutlass bearing is dripless. Next step is to check the flow of the water from the motor to the bearing. Will let yall know
Ben
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
The SHAFT SEAL is dripless, that's the correct terminology. The cutlass bearing needs water for lubrication. Two different parts and systemsof the boat.Ben62 wrote:Thanks for all the help. Belts are ok. Cutlass bearing is dripless. Next step is to check the flow of the water from the motor to the bearing. Will let yall know
Ben
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
Do you know what dripless shaft seal is installed? Tides, PSS, Halyard, etc. If there is a component connected to the shaft that has come loose that could be the squeal, like a metal sleeve or collar that is supposed to be connected (fixed) to the shaft is now riding the shaft.
Rob S.
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Cummins 6BTA 330B's
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Luck is the residue of good design.
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1974 Chris Craft 36' Commander Tournament
Cummins 6BTA 330B's
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
Shaft seal is pumping as it should be. Boat was hauled and o e side of the cutlass bearing shows excessive wear. Yard thinks they iinstalled I correctly.
Will post update
Ben
Will post update
Ben
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
This sounds like an alignment problem.
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
I had the same issue last year after replacing the cutlass bearing, I have a dripless set up with no cooling, just the 1/2" holes on either side allowing water to run through. It quieted down after 20 hours or so of running. My guess is the set screws that hold the cutlass in place were over-tightened.
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
Update.
Boat was hauled. I found out the cutlass bearing used was metric and too tight for the 2 inch shaft. It was wearing more on one side secondary to poor alignment. Bearing replaced and alignment fixed and problem resolved.
All costs covered by the yard.
Ben
Boat was hauled. I found out the cutlass bearing used was metric and too tight for the 2 inch shaft. It was wearing more on one side secondary to poor alignment. Bearing replaced and alignment fixed and problem resolved.
All costs covered by the yard.
Ben
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Re: High Pitched Squeall in slow forward
thats great news Ben. Enjoy the summer!