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A27-Galley
- JT48348
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A27-Galley
Curious what's in your galley? Since I tore out the head and started reparing the ports, the galley went also. I plan to replace the countertop with a piece of composite, maybe acrylic or some type of cornian, with a shallow double sink, pressure water. With everything tore out, the design is wide open.
Stove:
For a stove I have been exploring induction cooking. In my house boat I remodeled my galley and installed a twin burner 110v electric ceramic/glass cooktop I never looked back. It was great at the dock; off the hook I used a Magna gas grill. Because the house boat was in the slip for daily living, the cooktop was a clean surface to cook on, easy to maintain, looked sharp. Not too expensive.
I recently started looking at induction cooking, exploring the idea of what it would take to run a single induction burner (they call it a "hob") at the dock and off the grid. I located a 1300w induction hob that can be built-in. I'm thinking of putting this in the countertop where the opening for the counter ice box used to be. I'd open up the cabinet face for ventilation of course. This is the model: http://www.sunpentown.com/sr13inb.html
I recently experimented with the NuWave induction model and it fried and egg in 4 minutes, cooked 5 pieces of bacon in eight. From living aboard so long, I have a very good idea of how and what I cook so I know how long it might be used off the hook, and I think I know the power demands via an inverter. If I can't run it off grid, I will have a backup stove that I can put on the counter for those days away from the dock.
Refrigerator:
I'm looking at a Indel Webasto Isotherm Cruise EL 85 refrigerator 12v. I plan to mount it on a knee high cabinet just forward of new head bulkhead.
Stove:
For a stove I have been exploring induction cooking. In my house boat I remodeled my galley and installed a twin burner 110v electric ceramic/glass cooktop I never looked back. It was great at the dock; off the hook I used a Magna gas grill. Because the house boat was in the slip for daily living, the cooktop was a clean surface to cook on, easy to maintain, looked sharp. Not too expensive.
I recently started looking at induction cooking, exploring the idea of what it would take to run a single induction burner (they call it a "hob") at the dock and off the grid. I located a 1300w induction hob that can be built-in. I'm thinking of putting this in the countertop where the opening for the counter ice box used to be. I'd open up the cabinet face for ventilation of course. This is the model: http://www.sunpentown.com/sr13inb.html
I recently experimented with the NuWave induction model and it fried and egg in 4 minutes, cooked 5 pieces of bacon in eight. From living aboard so long, I have a very good idea of how and what I cook so I know how long it might be used off the hook, and I think I know the power demands via an inverter. If I can't run it off grid, I will have a backup stove that I can put on the counter for those days away from the dock.
Refrigerator:
I'm looking at a Indel Webasto Isotherm Cruise EL 85 refrigerator 12v. I plan to mount it on a knee high cabinet just forward of new head bulkhead.
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- JFOkie
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Re: A27-Galley
JT, I really enjoy your posts. As part of my installation of a composting head over the winter, I plan on adding two additional batteries where the holding tank was, add a refrigerator in the galley (somewhere) and eventually a pair of solar panels on the roof of the wheel house. A friend of mine has a similar set up on his sailboat and the panels provide a trickle charge to his refrigerator keeping everything cold and the batteries topped off.
Looking forward to seeing new pictures and which refrigerator you decide to go with.
John
M/V Nirvana
Looking forward to seeing new pictures and which refrigerator you decide to go with.
John
M/V Nirvana
- JT48348
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Re: A27-Galley
John thanks very much
Fyi: i was able to talk to the isotherm folks and the 12v refrig(which is also wired for 120v) pulls approx 30amp per day. Not bad
The induction stove on the other hand is about 120 amps for just one hour. But because it cooks so fast i should be able to use it for 30min a day off the hook
The wallas stove which is by far the best solution because it runs right off the main diesel tank and can do dual duty as a stove and heater--unfortunately its $2800.
Too many zeros
Fyi: i was able to talk to the isotherm folks and the 12v refrig(which is also wired for 120v) pulls approx 30amp per day. Not bad
The induction stove on the other hand is about 120 amps for just one hour. But because it cooks so fast i should be able to use it for 30min a day off the hook
The wallas stove which is by far the best solution because it runs right off the main diesel tank and can do dual duty as a stove and heater--unfortunately its $2800.
Too many zeros
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Re: A27-Galley
I took out the stove on my 27 redo to save the counter space. I now have a portable one burner butane stove that you can use anywhere on the boat. If I need two burners i'll buy another one. The extra counter space is really nice. Vic
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Re: A27-Galley
Also I installed a Viritrigo 12 volt fridge/ freezer . I had one of these in a sailboat and it was great. The power draw depends on the size and insulation of the box. I reduced the overall size of the ice box my Albin 27. The unit is small enough that I installed it under the entry stair that I modified.
Vic
Vic
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Re: A27-Galley
Thanks for the Pic CaptVic! Can you show a few more with your mods?
Jay
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Re: A27-Galley
Nice installation Vic!
I had a similar unit on my last sailboat, except that it had a keel cooler for the condenser and the amp draw was very manageable. I added insulation to the factory icebox reducing it's size by about 40%. I was able to make all the ice cubes we use and since we're both habitual ice tea drinkers, we went through a lot of ice
For my A-27, I'm installing a unit similar to yours in a 90 quart cooler (not a Yeti, but one very similar) which will be the base for the dining table up on deck between the settees. The compressor/condenser will go in the port locker under the seat
The 'secret' to DC refrigeration on a boat is a top loading icebox with great insulation - 3 to 4 inches on all 4 sides and 6 inches on the bottom. Units with a door which opens like a home refrigerator dump out all the cold every single time you open the door and then the cooling process starts all over again. They may advertise a 30 AH per day draw, but I'll bet those numbers were done with a full box and zero openings of the door. If you actually open the door as often as most of us would in daily use, that number will be considerably higher
Don
I had a similar unit on my last sailboat, except that it had a keel cooler for the condenser and the amp draw was very manageable. I added insulation to the factory icebox reducing it's size by about 40%. I was able to make all the ice cubes we use and since we're both habitual ice tea drinkers, we went through a lot of ice
For my A-27, I'm installing a unit similar to yours in a 90 quart cooler (not a Yeti, but one very similar) which will be the base for the dining table up on deck between the settees. The compressor/condenser will go in the port locker under the seat
The 'secret' to DC refrigeration on a boat is a top loading icebox with great insulation - 3 to 4 inches on all 4 sides and 6 inches on the bottom. Units with a door which opens like a home refrigerator dump out all the cold every single time you open the door and then the cooling process starts all over again. They may advertise a 30 AH per day draw, but I'll bet those numbers were done with a full box and zero openings of the door. If you actually open the door as often as most of us would in daily use, that number will be considerably higher
Don
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Re: A27-Galley
Thanks Don. I also cut the volume in the icebox by 40 percent. John what more can I help you with on my mods? Vic
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Re: A27-Galley
Hi Vic, it is Jay, not John!
Just hoping for a bit more detail on your mod. Did you put a storage area under the bottom step? Did you move the steps forward? I presume that the compressor is covered by the top step and protected by a kick panel .
Thanks
Jay
Just hoping for a bit more detail on your mod. Did you put a storage area under the bottom step? Did you move the steps forward? I presume that the compressor is covered by the top step and protected by a kick panel .
Thanks
Jay
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Re: A27-Galley
I think the single burner is defiantly all you need these days especially if you have a plug in hot water kettle or coffee pot set up. I have gone like Vic with a portable burner burner too.
Getting rid of the 2 burner stove also opens up lots of counter space too.
For a cool box there are some very good low power chest type coolers with 12v/110v that can be placed in lots of places. Won't make ice but I rarely use it in drinks .
Warren
Getting rid of the 2 burner stove also opens up lots of counter space too.
For a cool box there are some very good low power chest type coolers with 12v/110v that can be placed in lots of places. Won't make ice but I rarely use it in drinks .
Warren
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Re: A27-Galley
Jay,
I started out to put the compressor under the lower step but that didn't work so I converted that to a small storage area and moved the compressor up one. Yes there is a kick plate and plenty of ventilation for the unit . From this position it was a snap to run the lines/control into the bottom of the ice box. I opened another small storage area behind the head. I converted the hanging locker to shelves. Since I no longer have a back cabin I've gained three huge storage areas on the aft deck and two more under the seatee ententions.
There are a lot of places that you can gain storage in these little boats.
I started out to put the compressor under the lower step but that didn't work so I converted that to a small storage area and moved the compressor up one. Yes there is a kick plate and plenty of ventilation for the unit . From this position it was a snap to run the lines/control into the bottom of the ice box. I opened another small storage area behind the head. I converted the hanging locker to shelves. Since I no longer have a back cabin I've gained three huge storage areas on the aft deck and two more under the seatee ententions.
There are a lot of places that you can gain storage in these little boats.
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Re: A27-Galley
Jay,
I don't believe that I changed the position of the steps, just utilized the space that was there. Vic
I don't believe that I changed the position of the steps, just utilized the space that was there. Vic
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Re: A27-Galley
Thanks Vic!
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Re: A27-Galley
How about some pics of the inside of the box? Thanks
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Re: A27-Galley
Wife and I lived in an over the road truck for 15 years with no refrigeration, learned to select foods that did not require it. But like our ice for sundowners, and the occasional cold beer, we put in an ice maker and love it. It will make up to 27 lbs a day. Thanks, Mark.