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Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
In the quest to have Steel Hers serve 2 Masters (Fishing & Cruising or Steel & Hers) we've begun the process of installing a full aft enclosure with the bimini shown below. The material is Stamoid for it's durability and appearance, much preferred by us over sunbrella, and we chose the rigid bracing for cruising so we could have it up or roll it up & back w/a boot. The curtains are under construction as we speak and should be installed by the end of this coming week.
One key feature had to be the ability to easily remove the bimini when we're going fishing. Our canvas guy installed a "quick disconnect" feature for the rigid frame which involves clicking a button and lifting up the brace (pic included). So all we do is unzip the connection to the pilot house roof, roll it up and put the boot on, hit 4 buttons, lift off, and place it on a pvc rack we installed on our dock box. It couldn't be simpler. We're absolutely tickled w/the results so far.
I'll post more pics when the enclosure is installed.
Well, the enclosure is installed and it's perfect, with maximum visibility all around, big doors to go forward, and easily removed.
Well, the enclosure is installed and it's perfect, with maximum visibility all around, big doors to go forward, and easily removed.
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Last edited by Chris & Dale on Fri Sep 14, 2012 1:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini
I like the pvc rack idea. Storage was an afterthought for me.
Very nice!
Very nice!
John
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini
Easy on/off and storage, 2 of the big obstacles and you've addressed them both, nicely done. I assume the boltrope receptacle atop the gunnel is for the side curtains? Not many other options with the coaming bolsters mounted on the gunnel faces... I see the area above the step has been left clear for obvious reasons
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"TOY-RIFIC" 2000 28TE, 6LP, Hull 408
Luck is the residue of good design.
Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Here's the rack I built out of PVC for about $10. Works great, right behind the boat for when we're going fishing.
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Chris, it's gorgeous! I love the shape of the bimini.
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
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1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
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Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Chris,
When you fold back the bimini, does the frame provide enough lateral rigidity when you're under way? We need to rework our bimini. Side to side whippiness is a problem that we need to resolved.
When you fold back the bimini, does the frame provide enough lateral rigidity when you're under way? We need to rework our bimini. Side to side whippiness is a problem that we need to resolved.
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Nancy:
See my reply to you under the "Bimini Top" post. Our frame arrangement on the Carol Marie is extremely stable both when the Bimini is deployed and when it is stowed.
Come visit.
Carolmarie, 2001, 28TE.
See my reply to you under the "Bimini Top" post. Our frame arrangement on the Carol Marie is extremely stable both when the Bimini is deployed and when it is stowed.
Come visit.
Carolmarie, 2001, 28TE.
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Nancy,Nancy wrote:Chris,
When you fold back the bimini, does the frame provide enough lateral rigidity when you're under way? We need to rework our bimini. Side to side whippiness is a problem that we need to resolved.
What size tubing is used for your frame? Ours was 1" and was quite stable in even the roughest conditions.
Doug
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2006 35TE Convertible, Volvo D6-370's
Former owner - Sonny III, 1997 28TE with "The BEAST"
Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Sorry I missed this activity on my post. Nancy, when it folds back onto itself there are the back braces which hold it pretty rigid. Of course, I've removed the side curtains, then I fold it back onto itself and wrap the bimini top around the frame, and finally put a boot over it. At that point, it's 4 buttons and the whole frame is disconnected and placed on the dock frame. I should be folding it back for removal in the next few weeks for several planned fishing trips and will take pictures. I do believe ours is 1" heavy gage stainless. More to come.
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Doug, our frame is 1". Maybe "whippy" is not a good description. The frame itself does not bend. Rather, the entire frame shucks side to side when folded back because of the play in the quick-release fittings at the base of the vertical supports. When the bimini is extended and attached to the pilothouse roof, it is completely stable.
We're going to try some criss-crossed straps for use when the top is folded back and see whether that provides enough stability. Studying photos of other biminis, it's possible that our vertical supports aren't far enough aft.
We're going to try some criss-crossed straps for use when the top is folded back and see whether that provides enough stability. Studying photos of other biminis, it's possible that our vertical supports aren't far enough aft.
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
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Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Hi Nancy,
That makes sense now. The issue as I see it is that you have a mass (the rolled and folded bimini) and a somewhat unstable structure (the frame). As you mentioned your options are to tighten up that frame somehow OR add additional rigidity and bracing. Some kind of diagonal would probably be your best bet, either above head height in an "X' to the back of the pilothouse roof, or some kind of strap from the bend in the frame "corners" to the midpoint of the transom. You could also test out a "stabilizer" system by tying a line around the folded back bimini, say 1' in from the bend, and running it to the stern cleats on the same side. Moving the tie point in closer to the center would make it more stable, but at some point you should hit a comfort level of shakiness vs. blocking access.
That makes sense now. The issue as I see it is that you have a mass (the rolled and folded bimini) and a somewhat unstable structure (the frame). As you mentioned your options are to tighten up that frame somehow OR add additional rigidity and bracing. Some kind of diagonal would probably be your best bet, either above head height in an "X' to the back of the pilothouse roof, or some kind of strap from the bend in the frame "corners" to the midpoint of the transom. You could also test out a "stabilizer" system by tying a line around the folded back bimini, say 1' in from the bend, and running it to the stern cleats on the same side. Moving the tie point in closer to the center would make it more stable, but at some point you should hit a comfort level of shakiness vs. blocking access.
Doug
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Nancy,
My canvas guy is Chris Patterson at Weaver Canvas. I'm sure if you went to his web site and contacted him, with several good pictures and dimensions of your frame in the retracted position, he'd be happy to give you some advice on how to adjust it or shore it up. Tell him I recommended you contact him. Good Luck.
http://weavercanvas.com/support/home.htm
My canvas guy is Chris Patterson at Weaver Canvas. I'm sure if you went to his web site and contacted him, with several good pictures and dimensions of your frame in the retracted position, he'd be happy to give you some advice on how to adjust it or shore it up. Tell him I recommended you contact him. Good Luck.
http://weavercanvas.com/support/home.htm
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Re: Steel Hers New Bimini - Now the Enclosure
Doug, great minds think alike - our first attempt will be straps crossed diagonally. We like trying simple solutions first. There are already eye hooks in place from a previous configuration.
Chris, thanks for the contact information. I may very well call him.
Chris, thanks for the contact information. I may very well call him.
Nancy
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987
2005 Albin 35CB
Yanmar 6LYA-STP 370
Valentine
Former boats
1995 Albin 28TE, Cummins 6BTA5.9 250, 2012-2022
1978 Trojan F32, 1998-2012
1983 Grady White 241 Weekender, 1988-1997
1980 Wellcraft 192 Classic, 1983-1987